From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Schmidt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12680: 24.2.50; about-emacs messages (startup-echo-area-message) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:30:55 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <87d30bsjv6@ch.ristopher.com> References: <87pq4ewsip@ch.ristopher.com> <5dsj98pp4o.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1350847885 19093 80.91.229.3 (21 Oct 2012 19:31:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 19:31:25 +0000 (UTC) To: 12680@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 21 21:31:33 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1FD-0006g1-UM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 21:31:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35874 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1F6-0004i6-FL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:31:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1Eg-0001dc-LE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:30:59 -0400 Original-Received: from ristopher.com ([146.185.21.93]:36640 helo=saturn.ch.ristopher.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TQ1Eg-0001dY-Cv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 15:30:58 -0400 Original-Received: by saturn.ch.ristopher.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id BB7D31FF45; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:30:55 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ch.ristopher.com; s=mail; t=1350847855; bh=Zp30UxoNQ9URFvIYvKG+rFsKXYNb/B1lvzbwfxJWo+w=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Date; b=k9N+q8GoBSM9WLh+oph/SkY7ZkmGTP0F2b+UN6lQzta8yytrUglO7xlwLi8MGbw4s AQ8TInz0kxggm1MLNKYOjbvSJL0h44zVaSe3VogJy98cjjvM/CXJu7yYV4XJ9Xp0SN u2inon+zXH17tnlgEsj8lrOcatk4M5IlD8Eq+pI8= In-Reply-To: <5dsj98pp4o.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Sat, 20 Oct 2012 21:53:11 -0400") Mail-Followup-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:65821 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > Christopher Schmidt wrote: > >> If (use-fancy-splash-screens-p) is non-nil, about-emacs (C-h C-a), in >> particular fancy-about-screen, messages (startup-echo-area-message). >> This is confusing, especially when Emacs is started as a daemon. > > Sorry, I don't understand. > Why is it confusing when Emacs was not started as a daemon? Pressing C-h C-a will make Emacs message "For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.". This message is superfluous because that very information is already displayed and the user most likely just did press C-h C-a. > Why is it confusing if Emacs _was_ started in that way? In this case Emacs messages "Starting Emacs daemon." This message has nothing to do with about-emacs. Christopher