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From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch>
To: "Barry Margolin" <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to suppress/avoid *Async Shell Command* buffer?
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 23:19:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d2sox9y2.fsf@math.ethz.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <barmar-093865.13481518052013@news.eternal-september.org>


Barry Margolin writes:

> In article <mailman.41.1368897044.22516.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
>  Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 18.05.2013 16:37, schrieb Marius Hofert:
>> > Hi Andreas,
>> >
>> > what do you mean by 'caused'?
>> >
>> > The question mark is a place holder for the file (foo.pdf).
>>
>> Okay, see dired-do-shell-command reads it
>>
>> > What does this have to do with *Async Shell Command* being opened?
>> >
>>
>> Nothing. It's the ampersand following ? which matters.
>>
>> > Note: The behavior of "!" on foo.pdf in dired mode is fine (in the sense
>> > that Okular opens, the pdf is shown, everything asynchronously), I just want
>> > to avoid the buffer *Async Shell Command* being opened.
>> >
>>
>> Which seems the buffer Emacs connects the process to.
>> Deleting it should end the processes, probably not a good idea.
>>
>> So the ampersand seems the culprit - not the question mark.
>> What happens when calling your stuff without it?
>
> This is essentially the same as using M-!, isn't it, except that it
> automatically fills in the filename argument? If you don't use the
> ampersand, Emacs waits for the command to finish, and then displays the
> output in *Shell Command Output*. If you use ampersand, it doesn't wait,
> and displays the output incrementally in *Async Shell Command*.
>
> Either way, the output has to be put somewhere.
>
> However, the synchronous mode has a feature: if the command produces
> little or no output, it doesn't switch to the *Shell Command Output*
> buffer, it just displays it in the minibuffer.  Here's a trick that I
> think should do what you want: Run the backgrounded command in a
> subshell (wrap it in parentheses):
>
> ! (command ? &>/dev/null &)

indeed, this also works, very nice!

Thanks, Barry.

Cheers,

Marius

>
>
> As far as Emacs is concerned, that's a synchronous command, because it
> doesn't end in "&". But it runs in the background within the subshell.
> Redirect the output so that Emacs immediately reads EOF, and has nothing
> to display in the minibuffer (it may display "(Shell command completed
> with no output)").



  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-18 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-18 10:05 How to suppress/avoid *Async Shell Command* buffer? Marius Hofert
2013-05-18 12:47 ` Andreas Röhler
2013-05-18 13:58   ` Marius Hofert
2013-05-18 14:33     ` Andreas Röhler
2013-05-18 14:37       ` Marius Hofert
2013-05-18 17:13         ` Andreas Röhler
2013-05-18 18:03           ` Marius Hofert
2013-05-18 18:58             ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]         ` <mailman.41.1368897044.22516.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-18 17:48           ` Barry Margolin
2013-05-18 21:19             ` Marius Hofert [this message]
2013-05-18 14:39     ` Hongxu Chen
2013-05-18 18:52       ` Marius Hofert
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-05-18  0:03 Marius Hofert
2013-05-18  8:48 ` Andreas Röhler

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