From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15331: desktop should auto-save on idle time Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:58:16 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87d2odu593.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <878uz3p907.fsf@gnu.org> <87bo3z5ehf.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1379019858 550 80.91.229.3 (12 Sep 2013 21:04:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Sam Steingold , 15331@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 12 23:04:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VKE3o-0004ZR-62 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:04:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43829 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKE3n-0004Dd-Lt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:04:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58286) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKE3d-0004Bx-DH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:04:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKE3X-0000H5-Dp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:04:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:51464) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKE3X-0000H1-9h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:04:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKE3W-0004mw-Fq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15331 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 15331-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15331.137901982418365 (code B ref 15331); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15331) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2013 21:03:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59753 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKE3D-0004m9-3I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:03:43 -0400 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhost.com ([69.163.218.105]:51267 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VKE3B-0004m0-Ey for 15331@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 17:03:41 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.jurta.org (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2060258B9E935; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:03:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Thu, 12 Sep 2013 02:56:20 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:78308 Archived-At: >> You can't use idle timers even with such reasonable timeouts >> as 5 minutes between saves, i.e. when the user needs to save >> the desktop every 5 minutes, with idle timers the user have to sit >> inactively 5 minutes waiting for Godot^H^H^H^H^H desktop saving. >> Thus desktop saving requires two different timers out of necessity. > > Or, the desktop can be saved after 5 minutes (or whatever) of idle > time, and if the user needs more frequency, they can bind > desktop-save-in-desktop-dir and do it manually... Or use the timer to display every 5 minutes a message "Don't forget to type M-x desktop-save-in-desktop-dir RET" :-) > When I'm writing or translating with LibreOffice, I do not trust > autosaving. I type Ctrl-S after every paragraph. Seems saner. Unlike LibreOffice, we can fix desktop.el in a way that you'll trust Emacs autosaving :-)