From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: making software with Emacs and Elisp Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 03:36:49 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87d2n02051.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: <87ob6k23t3.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87fvrwiuq6.fsf@informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382233214 29717 80.91.229.3 (20 Oct 2013 01:40:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 01:40:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 20 03:40:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VXi0A-0000uv-24 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 03:40:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34867 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXi09-00054D-KK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 21:40:17 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.datemas.de!rt.uk.eu.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 36 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Un3ZuELYAwWyUfuczPIQwoZuDJM= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:201839 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94108 Archived-At: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" writes: > The binary is only 13MB (about 8MB on a 32-bit system > IIRC). You could prefectly use only that. You can > try it with the -Q option: > > emacs -Q > > and see what's left of the emacs user experience with > it. Yeah, I know. > You could indeed develop an application on this bare > emacs, but this would be equivalent to develop an > application on a bare Linux kernel with only a shell > and gcc installed. You can write an ed-like editor in > bash, and soon enough be editing programs to be > compiled with gcc. Perhaps the first program you'd > write would be a lisp interpreter in which to write an > emacs... But soon after that, you'll gather libraries > to be able to write higher level programs. You are right, might as well ship the whole thing (or provide references). Some people will be put off by that, and some people will mess it up, but you can never make everything work for everyone anyway. > To compare with little applications in the accursed > Apple world Crazy stuff. -- Emanuel Berg, programmer-for-rent. CV, projects, etc at uXu underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573