From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gnus state, feed commands Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:50:11 +0700 Message-ID: <87d2lw4vy4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87ob5k1a9q.fsf__48304.1452513591$1384626024$gmane$org@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87bo1jjg1w.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87mwl11hry.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <87r4adywhk.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384850993 9240 80.91.229.3 (19 Nov 2013 08:49:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:49:53 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 19 09:49:57 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vih0O-0005xf-MP for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:49:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47814 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vih0N-0005g2-UX for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 03:49:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49807) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VigzR-0004N9-QX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 03:49:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VigzK-0006MP-BZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 03:48:57 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:58265) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VigzK-0006M6-52 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 03:48:50 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VigzI-0005Zq-2o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:48:48 +0100 Original-Received: from 223.204.248.72 ([223.204.248.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:48:48 +0100 Original-Received: from eric by 223.204.248.72 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:48:48 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 223.204.248.72 User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6uSZck4oSZ4vfthiZlvGpkbWDnE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94537 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Beats me, I haven't looked into the code. But I'd >> expect to get back the same number gnus shows next to >> the group name in the *Group* buffer. For me, at >> least, I only got that from gnus-group-unread. > > Aha, good point - what do you have as > `gnus-group-line-format'? I have %N which is "Number of > unread articles (integer)" - perhaps you have %U - > "Number of unseen articles (integer)"? I've got %y, which is unread and unticked. I finally went and looked it up: unseen means the message has never before been displayed in a summary buffer, or seen by gnus or you. Unread means you just haven't read it. In my case, while experimenting, I had removed the read mark from three messages in gmane.emacs.help, then tested from the *Group* buffer. That meant those message were "seen" but "unread", hence the discrepancy. It's good to have the two functions -- I can imagine different people wanting different things. E