From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as word processor Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:02:07 +0900 Message-ID: <87d2lufg2o.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <5288A59E.7030109@dancol.org> <87vbzqfgd6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87mwl04w3k.fsf@zigzag.favinet> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385013759 31352 80.91.229.3 (21 Nov 2013 06:02:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 06:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 21 07:02:43 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjNLb-00071l-1F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:02:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58690 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjNLa-0000ps-LB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:02:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55526) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjNLS-0000pm-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:02:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjNLK-0007Ms-5l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:02:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:33705) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VjNLJ-0007KP-Rh; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:02:22 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FC69708DB; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:02:07 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C83F91A5193; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:02:07 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 182d01410b8d XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:165464 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes, among other things: > I think our interface will be so different from actual Word that > no one will get confused. To be frank, I think your goals for this feature are incoherent. You say you want non-Emacs users to use Emacs, then you turn around and deprecate exactly those features of this project (Word file-format compatibility, *Office-alike UI) that are most likely to encourage them to try Emacs (or at least, not strongly discourage them from doing so). If all you really want is a more convenient way to compose the likes of stallman.org/ebooks.pdf, what's wrong with focusing on that? OK, it's not going to change the world, but it would be a nice feature. Regards