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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>,
	Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com>, Tom <adatgyujto@gmail.com>,
	Bozhidar Batsov <bozhidar@batsov.com>,
	emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 01:33:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d2laq3e5.fsf@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvwqjjdusp.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 05 Dec 2013 13:25:01 -0500")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> I do think we need some paren-matching enabled by default.
> I'm surprised blink-matching-paren can elicit such strong sentiments,

Maybe it would've elicited better reception if the blinking was not
performed with a cursor jump (if the cursor stayed where it was, and the
blink was performed in, say, show-paren-match).  As it is, my first
impression of using it was, how do I get my cursor back?

> since I myself find it very nice, providing just enough info to be
> useful (including when the open paren is out of sight) without getting
> in the way (you can just ignore the cursor-jump if you don't care about
> it).

You can ignore it after the first impression wears off and you get it,
but it still takes some small amount of cognitive load that maybe would
be better spent elsewhere.

>>> > +1. Whenever the window-handling code does something different from what
>>> > I'd expect, winner-mode saves the day.
>>> Whenever it happens again do not hesitate to file a complaint here, too.

Yes, sure, thanks. Though some of my expectations might be different
from the general public.

> Just a guess, but the window-handling can "mess up" without it being
> a bug, so the "something different from what I'd expect" may still be
> "the right choice" in general.

Also yes.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-05 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 188+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-29 16:50 Finding packages to enable by default Tom
2013-11-29 17:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 18:54   ` Tom
2013-11-29 20:12     ` chad
2013-11-29 20:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 21:01       ` Tom
2013-11-29 21:40         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-29 22:13           ` Tom
2013-11-30  1:59             ` Glenn Morris
2013-11-30  4:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30  6:34                 ` Tom
2013-11-30 13:47                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30 19:10                     ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-01  9:01                       ` Tom
2013-12-01  9:13                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-01  9:21                           ` Tom
2013-12-01  9:33                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-01 15:44                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-01 16:42                           ` Tom
2013-12-01 19:01                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-02 17:09                               ` Tom
2013-12-02 17:45                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-03 17:05                                   ` Tom
2013-12-03 18:11                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-03 18:30                                       ` Tom
2013-12-03 19:18                                         ` Drew Adams
2013-12-03 19:32                                           ` Tom
2013-12-03 19:55                                         ` [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA & Survey suggestions(Re: Finding packages to enable by default) Jambunathan K
2013-12-03 20:35                                           ` Tom
2013-12-04  5:04                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  5:29                                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 15:50                                               ` [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-04 15:48                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-05  4:46                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-05 14:27                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-05 14:45                                                 ` joakim
2013-12-05 16:33                                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-05 16:56                                                     ` T.V. Raman
2013-12-06  0:49                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06  3:28                                                         ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-06  3:49                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-05 23:18                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-06  1:34                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  8:26                                       ` Finding packages to enable by default Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  9:13                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  4:09                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04  4:21                                       ` Andrew Hyatt
2013-12-04  5:46                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 16:08                                         ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-04 20:18                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04 20:32                                             ` Tom
2013-12-04 21:16                                               ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-04 21:36                                                 ` Tom
2013-12-05  1:35                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 15:24                                                 ` Davis Herring
2013-12-05 17:10                                                 ` Tom
2013-12-05 18:42                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 23:33                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-04 21:13                                             ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-12-04 21:18                                               ` Tom
2013-12-04 21:39                                                 ` Tom
2013-12-04 22:09                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-05  7:00                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-12-05  8:51                                                 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-05 18:25                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 18:57                                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-05 23:33                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2013-12-06  0:55                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06  2:07                                                         ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  4:28                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06  5:16                                                             ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  5:53                                                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  6:05                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  6:37                                                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  8:21                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06  8:18                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 11:20                                                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 11:29                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 11:42                                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 13:57                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 14:18                                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  8:09                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06  8:21                                                         ` martin rudalics
2013-12-06 17:30                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 17:40                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-12-07 22:48                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-08 17:45                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-12-08 21:21                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-10  1:58                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11  3:48                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 14:09                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 14:43                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-08 20:23                                                               ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-08 20:50                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-08 22:35                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-12-09  2:13                                                                 ` ada mode [was Re: Finding packages to enable by default] Glenn Morris
2013-12-12 16:42                                                                   ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-12 17:44                                                                     ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-12-10  2:04                                                                 ` Finding packages to enable by default Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 17:59                                                                   ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-11  3:50                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11  8:13                                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-12-11 11:25                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 14:13                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 14:44                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 15:26                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-13  4:17                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-06  8:21                                                     ` martin rudalics
2013-12-05  0:28                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-05  4:34                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  5:37                                             ` Josh
2013-12-06  5:46                                               ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  6:01                                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 21:32                                       ` icomplete-mode vs. iswitchb Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05  1:30                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05  2:05                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 12:45                                             ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 13:26                                               ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-05 18:26                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-08 15:44                                                 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-10  1:43                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-10  9:56                                                     ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-11 14:07                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-22 18:24                                                         ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-23  1:30                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-27 22:24                                                             ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-05  8:10                                           ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 18:57                                           ` Josh
2013-12-08 19:05                                           ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-08 19:09                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-09 18:39                                               ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-10  5:15                                             ` Josh
2013-12-11  4:04                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 18:09                                                 ` Josh
2013-12-12  3:33                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 12:07                                                     ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 12:26                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-12 12:41                                                         ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 16:38                                                         ` Josh
2013-12-12 17:11                                                         ` chad
2013-12-13  2:45                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-13  2:56                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-13  3:31                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-12 18:20                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 18:53                                                           ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 19:34                                                           ` Josh
2013-12-12 17:15                                                     ` Josh
2013-12-11  4:06                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 16:49                                         ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-06 17:39                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 23:07                                             ` Josh
2013-12-07 13:22                                               ` Stephen Eglen
2013-11-30  6:27               ` Finding packages to enable by default Tom
2013-11-30 19:06                 ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-01  9:10                   ` Tom
2013-12-01 22:55                     ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-02 17:15                       ` Tom
2013-12-05 19:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-30  5:34         ` Josh
2013-11-30  6:03           ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-09 11:21 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-16 12:07   ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-17 10:34     ` Jambunathan K
2014-06-19 15:26       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-19 22:54         ` Drew Adams
2014-06-19 23:57         ` Daimrod
2014-06-20  8:25         ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20  9:25           ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-20 12:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20 13:38             ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 14:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 15:17                 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 18:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 19:49                     ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-21  1:28                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-21 13:18                         ` wcheck-mode (was: Finding packages to enable by default) Teemu Likonen
2014-07-07 14:07                           ` wcheck-mode Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20 14:44               ` Finding packages to enable by default Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25  9:11             ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-06-21 21:51         ` Juri Linkov
2014-06-25  9:12           ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-06-21 22:16         ` Glenn Morris
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