From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul [was: mykie.el]
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2014 14:19:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d2k2oblk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87lhyqher9.fsf@gnu.org
Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org> writes:
> Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net> writes:
>
>>>> Is it even "legal" to distribute any elisp code that is not at least
>>>> compatible with the GPL? After all, any elisp code will have to
>>>> link with Emacs to be usable.
>>>
>>> Not sure why you put "legal" in quotes.
>>
>> Just a hedge, since I'm not sure of the legal status of the GPL,
>> whether in the US or any other jurisdiction.
>
> At least here in Germany, the GPL has been confirmed several times by
> German courts.
Whatever you may consider "confirmed". The point is just that the
defense against GPL violations is rather weak. "Your honor, we consider
the GPL to be invalid and ourselves not bound by it." Which is
perfectly fine, and the GPL explicitly allows for it. The problem is
that the followup question then is "Ok, let's put aside the GPL. What
_other_ permission did you have for using this software?" And things go
downhill from there. The ultimate position tends to be something along
the line of "no reasonable person could have expected the license to
mean what it says".
And getting a judge to swallow that is a challenge.
It's not as much the GPL that is confirmed in such cases, but rather
copyright as such. One reason there is more confirmation in Germany
might be that in Germany, "loser pays all". In the U.S., it is much
more expensive to defend what is obviously yours.
--
David Kastrup
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-08 13:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-03 20:09 mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-03 21:37 ` mykie.el Bozhidar Batsov
2014-01-04 1:08 ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-06 22:47 ` mykie.el, mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-06 23:00 ` enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul [was: mykie.el] Drew Adams
2014-01-06 23:42 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-01-07 0:29 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 1:08 ` Eric Brown
2014-01-07 5:39 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 8:33 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-01-07 8:38 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-07 14:41 ` Grim Schjetne
2014-01-07 15:12 ` Stephen Berman
2014-01-07 17:44 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 20:55 ` Stephen Berman
2014-01-08 11:52 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-08 13:19 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2014-01-08 14:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-08 17:19 ` enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul Glenn Morris
2014-01-07 17:44 ` enable MELPA & Marmalade by defaul [was: mykie.el] Drew Adams
2014-01-08 3:41 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-08 4:26 ` Bob Bobeck
2014-01-08 10:50 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-01-08 17:54 ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-09 3:00 ` Andy Moreton
2014-01-09 6:55 ` Nic Ferrier
2014-01-09 7:55 ` Tassilo Horn
2014-01-09 11:24 ` chad
2014-01-09 18:15 ` Achim Gratz
2014-01-08 3:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-08 10:32 ` David Kastrup
2014-01-07 16:53 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-08 3:15 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-01-08 9:27 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<a62bb795-44d9-44dd-b17a-d5294c21d2b0@default>
[not found] ` <<E1W0Zto-0000A5-VX@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-01-07 17:44 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-07 16:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-07 17:44 ` Drew Adams
2014-01-08 3:41 ` Richard Stallman
2014-01-04 2:02 ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-04 4:34 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04 8:36 ` mykie.el Leo Liu
2014-01-05 8:10 ` mykie.el Mitchel Humpherys
2014-01-05 10:29 ` mykie.el Leo Liu
2014-01-06 16:09 ` mykie.el Nicolas Richard
2014-01-06 22:38 ` mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-07 0:37 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-07 23:21 ` mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-08 3:24 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-08 15:44 ` mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-08 16:11 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-08 16:38 ` mykie.el Ted Zlatanov
2014-01-08 17:24 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-09 8:13 ` mykie.el Tassilo Horn
2014-01-09 15:29 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-09 18:43 ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-11 20:23 ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-12 14:45 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-12 18:32 ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-12 19:46 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-12 22:51 ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-13 3:38 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-13 4:59 ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-13 14:03 ` mykie.el Stefan Monnier
2014-01-13 16:09 ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-08 21:21 ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
2014-01-06 5:31 ` mykie.el Yuta Yamada
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