From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unibyte characters, strings, and buffers Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2014 22:03:32 +0200 Message-ID: <87d2gyfaej.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <831txozsqa.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppl7y30l.fsf@gnu.org> <87r45nouvx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8361myyac6.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9capqfr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <5335C336.3080108@dancol.org> <87mwg9nti0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83ioqxdzax.fsf@gnu.org> <87ha6hngak.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83k3bacs02.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppl1n2k2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <837g79cc66.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhvomkfb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83ioqrbr0l.fsf@gnu.org> <874n2aisqf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vbuq9z2c.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqf6fkg1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83sipu9qj3.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1396559935 23867 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2014 21:18:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 21:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 03 23:18:48 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WVp28-00027S-Cc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 23:18:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46454 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVp27-0007Wn-Va for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 17:18:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38266) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVp24-0007WB-PQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 17:18:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVp22-0006m4-KM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 17:18:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39910) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVp22-0006m0-Hm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 17:18:42 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47086 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WVp21-0005BQ-W8; Thu, 03 Apr 2014 17:18:42 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 873C4E0500; Thu, 3 Apr 2014 22:03:32 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83sipu9qj3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 03 Apr 2014 22:11:44 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171288 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > The amount of code borrowed by XEmacs from Emacs is orders of > magnitude larger than the other way around. So this is a red herring. Magnitude does not really matter with "dirty hands". At any rate, you _are_ aware that Oracle sued Google for billions of dollars because of what amounted to 11 lines of code? They did not prevail at the first trial, but Google did not get attorney costs back, either, and the whole thing went into appeal with murky outlook. >> nobody should be blamed for choosing to err on the safe side. > > I never blamed anyone. People should know the true state of affairs, > and then decide for themselves. The true state of affairs is that the U.S. legal and political system does not leave much leeway for paranoia. It's as bad as imagination gets. -- David Kastrup