() Eli Zaretskii () Sun, 20 Apr 2014 14:04:21 +0300 Really? I thought they were one and the same, at least in most quarters. For some (maybe most) people, making the effort to understand what makes a goal impractical in the eyes of the experienced is the most important practice to undertake. (Insert destination/journey blurb here.) If OP can vaunt the small hurdles along the way, who knows, maybe the big ones we (think we) see will prove easily surmountable after all (with a SMOP :-D). This is how the "old" can learn from the "young". -- Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical) (not (via 'mailing-list))) => nil