From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com>
Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:31:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d2e6tc0o.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+y5ggg08nhGqnULLCenp7xEP+O3xAiNVYCL+qVnRv3Xq7-QaA@mail.gmail.com> (Damien Cassou's message of "Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:43:57 +0200")
Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com> writes:
>
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> Why? Just to avoid having to do (require 'cl)? Or are you suggesting
>> that they should be rewritten in C and made primitive subrs?
>>
>
>
> I think Nicolas' problem is not the language in which the functions are
> implemented. In my opinion, the problems are:
>
> - that a (large) library must be loaded to have these 2 core functions
> (select a subset of elements, select one element). And this library is not
> required for similar functions like mapcar
>
> - that the name of the cl-lib functions are all prefixed by 'cl-' which
> makes them look weird for core functions
>
> I don't think Nicolas cares about the exact same features as cl-remove-if
> and cl-find-if. A very simple alternative (i.e., without the &rest cl-keys)
> would do the job.
I think that dash addresses most of these. The namespacing is minimal
(with a -) and it's not particularly large, although in these days of
fast machines, I am not sure that "large" is such a problem as it might
have been in the past. I am often surprised by how much emacs can do
nowadays which would have been slow before.
Phil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-18 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-17 17:13 Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp? Nicolas Petton
2014-06-17 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-17 18:36 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-06-17 18:56 ` Doug Lewan
2014-06-17 19:06 ` Nicolas Petton
2014-06-17 19:55 ` Doug Lewan
2014-06-17 22:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-18 11:00 ` Nicolas Petton
[not found] ` <mailman.3879.1403089222.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-18 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-18 14:43 ` Barry Margolin
2014-06-18 15:43 ` Damien Cassou
2014-06-18 16:31 ` Phillip Lord [this message]
[not found] ` <mailman.3896.1403106263.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-24 13:51 ` Christoph Wedler
2014-06-24 16:24 ` Barry Margolin
2014-06-25 3:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 4:08 ` Leo Liu
[not found] ` <mailman.4252.1403669342.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-25 13:46 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.4251.1403666567.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-25 10:24 ` Christoph Wedler
2014-06-25 13:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 14:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 15:37 ` Barry Margolin
2014-06-25 23:44 ` Robert Thorpe
2014-06-18 14:43 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <mailman.3837.1403026153.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-20 0:20 ` WJ
2014-06-20 13:45 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] <mailman.3836.1403025251.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-17 21:42 ` Barry Margolin
[not found] <mailman.4322.1403739913.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-26 0:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-26 5:27 ` Barry Margolin
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