From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs as WM Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:55:57 +1000 Message-ID: <87d2bvnccg.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87vbprtbp1.fsf@gmail.com> <87iolqr05k.wl%andres.ramirez@kipuamutay.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1408500456 24512 80.91.229.3 (20 Aug 2014 02:07:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 02:07:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 20 04:07:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XJvJA-0006vM-BT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 04:07:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53593 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJvJ9-0008Hh-KW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:07:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56537) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJvIr-0008Gj-1S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:07:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJvIl-0004KA-3C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:07:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pd0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::230]:59123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XJvIk-0004Jz-R0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:07:03 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pd0-f176.google.com with SMTP id y10so10905339pdj.21 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:07:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:from:to:subject:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; bh=wcWWhYWCeeiXP1eEUSX8ZI69NiJLvoGJkTUQvSy2QiI=; b=RyOyEWw541Pf5qcKDUHyLSYt4TzsYkhjfDI7rbQ8QZg8fXNtETVqhfqCoZ+gBR7ugs cJrwDjQdFsY4Ef3Fcba+GVY5EOCKw6+Hm1kZJtBRiN4eGkwSHaBO1sz8QbizXYZxjzBi uFqL7k+mMQH8za+/E0Vg3lZGCi6L2vnaS33sTi50+U0XN0KOExdweiPKpo/W0ljWAG5S BWV0MYu65yFLWmVCcCbpIznsOq3rQjIpt4emoskJpdMeKLby9/gBP+NkyT0rGqFmF4nV w7lrEDmfSURd6ILgLY4I3gu1eLBicSjTHU1OLnD49W6nfrbR4qJMbYd/OZblhtZAmduR jfnQ== X-Received: by 10.70.91.101 with SMTP id cd5mr34598490pdb.130.1408500421178; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (ppp118-209-47-36.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net. [118.209.47.36]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qi7sm20662025pbc.14.2014.08.19.19.06.59 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:07:00 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c02::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173770 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Skype is nonfree software. It's not a solution, it's a problem. Agreed. i feel that the most promising practical[1] alternative to Skype at this point is Jitsi, which is licensed under the LGPL 2.1: http://www.jitsi.org/ but it seems to me that the project needs a significant influx of contributors willing and able to fix bugs, implement features / feature requests, etc. Alexis. [1] "Practical" in the sense of, in my experience, being basically usable by non-technically-oriented users. Which is, unfortunately for alternatives to Skype, an area in which Skype excels.