From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bidirectional text and URLs
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2014 03:32:07 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d283mdaw.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837fyb8htc.fsf@gnu.org>
Eli Zaretskii writes:
> . modify the way the relevant directional controls are displayed to
> make them prominently apparent
-0 I don't think this will help enough, especially for the users who
would most benefit from Emacs's automated paranoia (ie, those who read
bidi but not RFCs).
> . allow the user to request a temporary display of the URL in its
> original logical order, before the reordering, or maybe do that
> automatically in a tooltip
+1 for the tooltip, with url-encoding for format characters, which are
non-conforming to RFC 3987 anyway.
Note that RFC 3987 specifies that bidirectional IRIs must *always* be
displayed with the UBA, and as if in an LRE embedding. I'm not sure
how you would enforce it, but I believe this would defang larsi's
example (ie, at the start of the URI proper in logical order insert a
LRE, and at the end a PDF -- any directional format characters between
those points are nonconforming to RFC 3987, section 4.1, last
paragraph).
> . replace the relevant directional controls with percent-hex encoded
> representation, which will as result disable the reordering
-1 If they're outside of the IRI, this will just make things ugly.
If they're inside the IRI, they're non-conforming and therefore bogus,
and would be caught by the tooltip.
> . cover the relevant directional controls with a display property
> (e.g., with a display string " "), which will also disable
> reordering
-0 This is just a specific implementation of the first option above, right?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-01 18:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-28 2:51 Bidirectional text and URLs Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-28 3:27 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-28 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 6:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-29 8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 17:05 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-29 17:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 17:49 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 17:54 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 18:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 9:38 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-30 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 18:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 19:12 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-29 19:31 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-29 19:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-29 20:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 16:26 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 17:29 ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-30 17:57 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 18:13 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 19:06 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 19:10 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 20:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 19:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-30 21:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 21:36 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-01 3:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 16:19 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-01 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 17:49 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-01 18:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 18:28 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-02 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 16:31 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-12-01 19:15 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 19:15 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 20:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 20:30 ` David Kastrup
2014-12-01 20:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 14:45 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 14:45 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 8:39 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-03 17:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04 9:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 11:16 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-05 11:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 22:43 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-05 23:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 12:06 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-06 12:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 22:43 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-05 23:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-06 12:06 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 14:44 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 8:39 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-30 9:38 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-30 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 10:17 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 14:42 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 8:38 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-03 11:56 ` Nicolas Richard
2014-12-03 17:12 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-03 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04 14:30 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-04 15:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-04 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-04 20:25 ` Paul Eggert
2014-12-02 14:42 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 18:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 17:13 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-03 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-05 22:44 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-05 23:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-07 9:20 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-07 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-08 0:26 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-08 15:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 17:13 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-03 17:13 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-29 17:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-30 13:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-30 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 10:18 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 18:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2014-12-01 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 20:08 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-12-01 20:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 14:42 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-02 14:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-03 8:39 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-28 11:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-28 13:58 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-28 19:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-28 21:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-29 0:26 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-28 22:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-28 14:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-28 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 6:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-28 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-28 17:09 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-28 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-29 17:03 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-29 17:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 9:37 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-30 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 10:18 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-28 19:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-29 17:04 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-29 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 9:38 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-30 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-30 23:39 ` chad
2014-12-01 3:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-01 8:01 ` chad
2014-12-01 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-12-02 14:41 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 19:17 ` Richard Stallman
2014-12-01 10:18 ` Richard Stallman
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