From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What's Elpa? (I.e. what did you decide the name refers to?) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 12:28:37 +0000 Message-ID: <87d26po3re.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420720287 12537 80.91.229.3 (8 Jan 2015 12:31:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 12:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kelly Dean , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Filipp Gunbin Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 08 13:31:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9CCm-0007b7-Mb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 13:28:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45696 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9CCl-00037y-EM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:28:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9CCi-00037F-2i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:28:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9CCe-0007PZ-1i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:28:44 -0500 Original-Received: from cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.22]:44240) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9CCd-0007M2-Qp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:28:39 -0500 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129] helo=smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk) by cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9CCb-0004cB-Fp; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 12:28:37 +0000 Original-Received: from jangai.ncl.ac.uk ([10.66.67.223] helo=localhost) by smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Y9CCb-0008Pt-NB; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 12:28:37 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Filipp Gunbin's message of "Thu, 8 Jan 2015 11:58:19 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181055 Archived-At: Filipp Gunbin writes: > On 08/01/2015 06:27 +0000, Kelly Dean wrote: > >> In general usage, it now seems to mean a particular repository (the >> one at elpa.gnu.org), with others being Melpa and Marmalade. Unless >> this is another case of my limited reading comprehension abilities. > > What general usage do you mean? I think he means that there is no work that means "an Emacs package archive". So, for example, take the docstring of package-refresh-packages... Download the ELPA archive description if needed. This informs Emacs about the latest versions of all packages, and makes them available for download. This is actually wrong because it can download several (although by default it downloads only the elpa.gnu.org one). It could be corrected: Download all ELPA archive descriptions. But now we are using "ELPA" to mean "a generic emacs package archive". So, we can't distinguish between elpa.gnu.org and marmalade. For myself, I would just substitute "ELPA" with "package". So Download all package archive descriptions. The "Emacs-Lisp" and "Archive" from ELPA are sort of implicit I think. Actually, the "Archive" is explicit! Phil