From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19731: 24.4; /dev/null is deleted by tramp-sh.el Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:04:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87d25sjwgj.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87r3u8k065.fsf@gmx.de> <87mw4wjyqi.fsf@gmx.de> <87h9v4jxde.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422882318 7209 80.91.229.3 (2 Feb 2015 13:05:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:05:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19731@debbugs.gnu.org To: crocket Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 02 14:05:14 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YIGgi-0005qG-SP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:05:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54545 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIGgi-0000W3-74 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:05:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51679) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIGgd-0000TX-Pi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:05:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIGgY-0005fn-RL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:05:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40627) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIGgY-0005fS-Np for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:05:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YIGgY-0005bN-3i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:05:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19731 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19731-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19731.142288229521519 (code B ref 19731); Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Feb 2015 13:04:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60100 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YIGgR-0005az-0i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:04:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:58161) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YIGgP-0005an-8j for 19731@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 08:04:53 -0500 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.50.120]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MVNWU-1Y9u8B0brK-00YeOV; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:04:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: (crocket's message of "Mon, 2 Feb 2015 21:46:40 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:4RaNipW+9iRAZ3nJ6y/t/68Kv1d14s3DNdt5u7Mgiu2UVpUPBGd j1aT09ErAtkmwly2KQB2ffJK0Z6eHx4Ah4arl7wk80nmWqoSPj2ma90JI638lvSjTYFwJEj jlQ5d/26FojjuMlS4laQ0GsYgoXW6s/gHZmWEsmQ+juSfwfLpIxmFviJfyFVE7PBC04kasI jANjNBZXGAq87nDuPYO4w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98975 Archived-At: crocket writes: > You shouldn't set HISTFILE to /dev/null in the first place. Well, I'm kind of conservative. Setting HISTFILE to /dev/null is the default for years, and your report is the first one about this problem. I wouldn't say that we shouldn't change it, but it needs more compatibility tests for supported shells. This could be any bournish shell, even very old ones. Also all flavors of busybox, etc pp. Best regards, Michael.