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From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: gnuplot
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:54:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d25f2na3.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87egpv2p4k.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl>


On 2015-02-12, at 15:14, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> wrote:

> On 2015-02-11, at 17:11, Javier Fernandez <jafernan@faeroes.freeshell.org> wrote:
>
>> [...]  I think at some point they will release it under a more
>> liberal license.  Otherwise gnuplot will stagnate.  There are GPL
>
> Just my 2 cents: GPL is not necessarily what should be called
> a "liberal" license -- personally I find it rather restrictive, in
> a sense.

BTW: I do not like to sound trollish, but there was recently a heated
discussion with exceptionally rude posts on Org-mode mailing list about
so-called non-"free" (free-as-in-Free-Software-Foundation, to be
precise) software.

It was stated there that GNU mailing lists do not allow promotion of
non-"free" software.  So - if gnuplot is apparently not kosher - what is
the official stance on this very thread?  I'm asking because it was
stated in that discussion that

> [Redacted] is non-free software, and people should not install it, or
> suggest installing it, or even tell people it exists.

and in another post

> Please stop using the GNU mailing lists to promote proprietary
> software.

(To be fair, not all participants seemed to agree with the above -
rather extreme - quotes, and there was also a polite explanation of why
informing about [redacted] was not necessarily a good idea on Org-mode
mailing list.)

I'd really like to understand what is good and what is evil according to
the FSF, and - also from sheer curiosity - why is the current thread
even allowed here (not to mention that there's even a discussion about
a *possibility* of including gnuplot-mode in Emacs itself, which -
according to what was said in the mentioned thread - sounds
sacrilegious).

This thread is another hint for me that there's something fishy going on
with all this "free-software" talk.  I'm afraid that - as is often the
case - when some organization (three-letter or not) says that it aims to
"promote [somebody's] freedom and to defend the rights of all
[somebodies]", it's really some politics and not anybody's freedom it's
all about.  (If there is another explanation for this seemingly unfair
treatment of various software projects, please do enlighten me!)  Even
though I do not personally agree with RMS or FSF, I have to say that
*if* this is indeed the case, I would be rather saddened and seriously
disappointed - until recently, I really believed in good intentions
(however mistaken their morality) behind the FSF.

Regards,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-12 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.19695.1423625299.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-11  3:48 ` gnuplot (was: Re: zsh outside of Emacs) Emanuel Berg
2015-02-11 16:11   ` gnuplot Javier Fernandez
2015-02-11 17:02     ` gnuplot Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <mailman.19720.1423674192.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-11 19:40       ` gnuplot Javier Fernandez
2015-02-11 20:11         ` gnuplot Javier Fernandez
2015-02-12  3:47     ` gnuplot Emanuel Berg
2015-02-12 13:21       ` gnuplot Stefan Monnier
     [not found]       ` <mailman.19754.1423747283.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-12 23:31         ` gnuplot Emanuel Berg
2015-02-12 14:14     ` gnuplot Marcin Borkowski
2015-02-12 14:43       ` gnuplot Stefan Monnier
2015-02-12 14:54       ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2015-02-12 15:07         ` gnuplot Marcin Borkowski
2015-02-12 15:11         ` gnuplot Stefan Monnier
     [not found]         ` <mailman.19761.1423753684.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-12 23:22           ` gnuplot Emanuel Berg
2015-02-13 18:34             ` gnuplot Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]         ` <mailman.19762.1423753921.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-12 23:24           ` gnuplot Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.19760.1423752889.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-02-12 23:13         ` gnuplot Emanuel Berg
2015-02-12  2:36   ` gnuplot (was: Re: zsh outside of Emacs) Robert Thorpe
2010-05-01 21:24 Gnuplot John Hendy

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