From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Check for redundancy
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 01:02:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d20glpqa.fsf@nl106-137-147.student.uu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20150627131227.GB23450@tuxteam.de
<tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
> AFAIR (yes, I'm an old fart) Hungarian notation was
> introduced at Microsoft (by Charles Simonyi, no
> less) because their C compiler was abysmal at
> type checking.
There is some material on it in this book:
@book{programmers-at-work,
title = {Programmers at Work},
author = {Susan Lammers},
publisher = {Tempus Books},
year = 1989,
ISBN = 1556152116
}
> Yes, the API sucked too. Possibly it still sucks
> (since times Windows 3.1 I haven't had to look at
> it, thanfully)
Yeah, I suspect it is (was) there for some reason.
It has to be real bad for it to help tho :) Here is
the Wikipedia article [1] - especially read the
"Notable opinions" section!
The best one:
* Linus Torvalds:
Encoding the type of a function into the name
(so-called Hungarian notation) is brain
damaged — the compiler knows the types anyway
and can check those, and it only confuses
the programmer.
The second-best one:
* Bjarne Stroustrup:
... I don't recommend 'Hungarian'. I regard
'Hungarian' (embedding an abbreviated version
of a type in a variable name) a technique that
can be useful in untyped languages, but is
completely unsuitable for a language that
supports generic programming and
object-oriented programming — both of which
emphasize selection of operations based on the
type and arguments (known to the language or
to the run-time support). In this case,
'building the type of an object into names'
simply complicates and minimizes abstraction.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_notation
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2015-06-24 9:29 Check for redundancy Andreas Röhler
2015-06-24 13:23 ` Drew Adams
2015-06-24 14:55 ` Andreas Röhler
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2015-06-24 18:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-24 21:10 ` tomas
2015-06-25 3:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-06-25 7:47 ` tomas
2015-06-26 15:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-26 20:25 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-06-26 22:48 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-27 12:11 ` Robert Thorpe
2015-06-27 13:12 ` tomas
2015-06-27 23:02 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2015-06-28 11:07 ` tomas
2015-06-28 15:50 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-28 16:35 ` Yuri Khan
2015-06-28 20:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-28 21:38 ` Robert Thorpe
2015-06-28 23:47 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-07-02 23:37 ` Robert Thorpe
2015-07-03 3:36 ` Yuri Khan
2015-07-03 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-03 11:48 ` Yuri Khan
2015-07-03 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-07-03 22:59 ` Robert Thorpe
2015-07-03 6:09 ` tomas
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2015-07-03 6:38 ` Rusi
2015-07-03 7:54 ` tomas
2015-07-03 8:55 ` Loris Bennett
2015-06-24 23:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-25 2:03 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-06-25 2:07 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-25 2:53 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-06-25 3:21 ` Emanuel Berg
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2015-06-25 7:43 ` Stefan Nobis
2015-06-25 8:52 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-06-26 14:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-26 14:39 ` Emanuel Berg
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2015-06-27 7:40 ` Stefan Nobis
2015-06-28 2:02 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-06-28 2:40 ` Emanuel Berg
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2015-07-03 8:40 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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