From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: plists, alists, and hashtables Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 07:21:17 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87d1yzs5si.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <876150vwaa.fsf@mbork.pl> <873803x5q4.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87a8u7we9s.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <877fp8t9ru.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87h9ocm02t.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87h9obsv3z.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87y4hnlela.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1438946723 9274 80.91.229.3 (7 Aug 2015 11:25:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 11:25:23 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 07 13:25:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNfm5-0002su-Cn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 13:25:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48677 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZNfm4-00040U-He for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 07:25:20 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Trace: news.albasani.net jAbYnqUgM1YFe2qs3+BbzHuM8jDyhRdpgWZtkq+X1XGjB0rz5oHaOQkiw0LTAs23I0EkWinbwMPpHzLBYqDThQ== Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 11:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="lakHn2mb/332unV7HfOHyhLoVKbvuGCjATT57q6ZKah1fPtfKxajCY9NMy94QldmFqrs4It+Q45QAhquCPDjNtCZ0KLVcErNpJRVtX3mgT/jc+QbZEa0KC3SvkTo9iic"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@albasani.net" User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Cancel-Lock: sha1:Qre+/F01IJeaLIDiWoylngzlJ+o= sha1:Te1UeAJAYYHKLp3Akmmcgn+52OQ= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:214031 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:106316 Archived-At: On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 09:53:05 +0200 "Pascal J. Bourguignon" wrote: PJB> And this is why we feel the lack of reader macros, since that would PJB> clearly allow you to write a new syntax in a user library, instead of PJB> having to beg it from the emacs lisp language itself. >> >> Is this work already planned? PJB> Well, once emacs got to git, I cloned it to do that, add CL packages and PJB> reader macros to emacs. But unfortunately I've not worked on it since. PJB> But I'm planing a take over :-) I'm writing a C parser in CL, so that I PJB> may read the C sources of CL, and then translate them into maintainable PJB> CL. Then I will be able to compile a CL GNU emacs core, that would be PJB> 100% bug-for-bug compatible with GNU emacs, and on which you could run PJB> all the .el (and even .elc) you'd want. PJB> But since the core would be written in CL, I could now provide features PJB> found in CL and in CL implementations, such as FFI, threads, packages, PJB> readtables, etc, by merely providing access to the underlying CL API. Let me rephrase my question: is the work of reader macros already planned for the Emacs core as an incremental feature? I'm not saying your project is not valuable, but it seems a bit far in the future. Ted