From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21277: 25.0.50; char-fold search is a screw, and I can't see how to disable Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 01:08:44 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87d1yjx76b.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440105533 19190 80.91.229.3 (20 Aug 2015 21:18:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andreas Schwab , 21277@debbugs.gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 20 23:18:42 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSXEO-0004Wg-Ry for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 23:18:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37169 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSXEO-000148-4X for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:18:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35806) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSBr0-0000be-EZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:29:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSBqx-0007UW-B5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:29:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:40755) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSBqx-0007US-8Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:29:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSBqx-0005ah-2U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:29:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:29:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21277 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21277-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21277.144002329421397 (code B ref 21277); Wed, 19 Aug 2015 22:29:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21277) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Aug 2015 22:28:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32958 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSBq9-0005Yw-Jy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:28:14 -0400 Original-Received: from sub3.mail.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.7]:54214 helo=homiemail-a100.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZSBq6-0005Ym-N4 for 21277@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:28:11 -0400 Original-Received: from homiemail-a100.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a100.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1280E31A07A; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost.linkov.net (m212-53-116-166.cust.tele2.ee [212.53.116.166]) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by homiemail-a100.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D78AE31A078; Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:28:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:41:55 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:105610 Archived-At: > If char-fold really only affects ASCII and Unicode lookalikes, is it > important enough to be worth mentioning in the echo area? If not, > let's delete it from the echo area. One idea was to not display default parameters in the echo area. So when e.g. char-fold search is t by default then it should not be indicated in the echo area. > Does anyone really want to disable it? Like case-fold search, char-fold search could be disabled either by customizing the corresponding variable, or interactively with =E2=80=98M-= s '=E2=80=99. > On the other hand, lax whitespace search by default is a drastic > change. That should be listed in the echo area, and its default > should be nil. AFAIK, a drastic change was not in lax whitespace search per se, but only in its combination with char-fold search that we could fix now.