From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>
Cc: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@online.de>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: beginning-of-defun (again)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:28:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d1vx953k.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87oafhesca.fsf@gmail.com> (Oleh Krehel's message of "Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:07:17 +0100")
Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com> writes:
> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> Hi Andreas,
>>>
>>> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@online.de> writes:
>>>
>>>> maybe it's time to have a reasonable default-behavior of
>>>> beginning-of-defun in Emacs Lisp.
>>>
>>> I think it works pretty well as is.
>>>
>>>> open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start
>>>
>>> It's a strange variable that doesn't seem to do anything.
>>
>> Huh?
>
> Please give an example then. I'm not able to see a difference when it's
> unset.
>
>>> The only relevant setting is 0 or non-zero (the default).
>>
>> Huh?!? The only relevant settings are nil and non-nil.
>
> The only relevant use is:
>
> if (!open_paren_in_column_0_is_defun_start)
> {
> find_start_value = BEGV;
> find_start_value_byte = BEGV_BYTE;
> goto found;
> }
>
> Note that it's not checked against Qnil. It may be that Qnil is
> conveniently defined to be 0 though, I'm not sure.
open_paren_in_column_0_is_defun_start is a C variable. You were talking
about open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start which is a Lisp variable.
It is defined using DEFVAR_BOOL:
@code{DEFVAR_BOOL} makes a C variable of type @code{int} visible in
Lisp with a value that is either @code{t} or @code{nil}. Note that
variables defined with @code{DEFVAR_BOOL} are automatically added to
the list @code{byte-boolean-vars} used by the byte compiler.
>> Speeds up syntax highlighting by giving it anchor points. If you
>> encounter
>>
>> (
>>
>> in a file, that counts as the start of some list even without looking
>> whether it might be part of something like
>
> I see. I wonder what the speed-up factor is.
Can be significant depending on the file.
> For example in org.el.
>
>>>> A function resp. top-level-form starts if the beginning of a list is
>>>> followed by a respective keyword.
>>>> The list of keywords being customizable seems a plus :)
>>>
>>> There's no reason for a defun to not start on a newline.
>>
>> But there's a reason for non-defuns to start on a newline.
>
> I call these defuns anyway.
Then you should be happy with the default setting.
--
David Kastrup
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-29 13:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-29 11:24 beginning-of-defun (again) Andreas Röhler
2015-10-29 11:52 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-29 12:03 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-29 13:07 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-29 13:28 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2015-10-29 13:47 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-29 17:39 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-29 12:11 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-29 12:16 ` Kaushal Modi
2015-10-29 17:56 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-30 1:35 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-30 2:20 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-30 9:29 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-30 18:17 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-30 23:13 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-30 23:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-30 23:34 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-01 1:05 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-29 12:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-29 12:56 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-29 13:31 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-29 14:46 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-29 14:57 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-29 14:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-30 1:34 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-30 6:47 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-30 23:14 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-31 8:01 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-31 12:24 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-31 15:55 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-11-01 1:06 ` Richard Stallman
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