From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikolaus Rath Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the popularity of git Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 14:05:24 -0800 Message-ID: <87d1vsjbvf.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> References: <20151028223252.GD2538@acm.fritz.box> <87vb9qd2h4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <20151028235340.GE2538@acm.fritz.box> <87ziz213wx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20151029123554.GB2510@acm.fritz.box> <87h9l995ec.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20151029170237.GF2510@acm.fritz.box> <22068.12941.199944.979963@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20151031165007.GA20747@acm.fritz.box> <5634F352.90303@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446501968 9086 80.91.229.3 (2 Nov 2015 22:06:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 22:06:08 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 02 23:05:54 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtNEd-0002xz-Pd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 23:05:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44476 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtNEd-00031d-DL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 17:05:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36835) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtNEJ-00030x-R6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 17:05:32 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtNEE-00052z-Lz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 17:05:31 -0500 Original-Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:48055) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtNEE-00052v-Ir for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Nov 2015 17:05:26 -0500 Original-Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD1E2051E for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 17:05:26 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 02 Nov 2015 17:05:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=MhNAMrT5xzCJAw6 UoINQXbkme1c=; b=Ltf0WrneBs5h8cheCVcRjEYUwqyHDmMwSc8B7A13Ird6txh MUqmgjZJdaF4wktTMAqKvgozeOTADlBfDqrWZI357zbxjX/9enZfjinxnP+HYvn8 mSTuFTMSY2CMo1IWW6P7lWIAqaHz2cQfgduWadcamLt2Soi5whQDoABZ+4XA= X-Sasl-enc: xfHoljl/C6SxYEQJQvlUWSsUy2SCmG50+gDpuruz1MOV 1446501926 Original-Received: from ebox.rath.org (ebox.rath.org [45.79.69.51]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 13D3EC016DA for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 17:05:26 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from thinkpad.rath.org (thinkpad [192.168.12.2]) by ebox.rath.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54A0DEF5FB for ; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 22:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by thinkpad.rath.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 09C77C24E9; Mon, 2 Nov 2015 14:05:24 -0800 (PST) Mail-Copies-To: never Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <5634F352.90303@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sat, 31 Oct 2015 18:58:58 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 66.111.4.28 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193122 Archived-At: On Oct 31 2015, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >> Being a user of git involves learning its internal structures. >> (Note the people recently emphasising the internal representation of a >> git branch to me, talking about pointers to its tip, and so on. I >> really don't want to have to know about such stuff.) > > To a reasonably proficient Git user, that sounds like "I don't want to > know what graphs are" Yes, you nailed the problem. To be a reasonably proficient git user, you have to learn its internal representation (which isn't surprising, because as someone else said, the internal representation is really the git's main selling point). Best, -Nikolaus --=20 GPG encrypted emails preferred. Key id: 0xD113FCAC3C4E599F Fingerprint: ED31 791B 2C5C 1613 AF38 8B8A D113 FCAC 3C4E 599F =C2=BBTime flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a Banana.=C2= =AB