From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to IRC? Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2015 02:57:42 +0100 Message-ID: <87d1ul64ix.fsf@debian.uxu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449280086 30746 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2015 01:48:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 01:48:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 05 02:47:55 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a51x0-0004e1-4h for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Dec 2015 02:47:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44188 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a51wz-00082R-CD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 20:47:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47804) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a51wo-0007yo-GU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 20:47:39 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a51wk-0000Uj-02 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 20:47:38 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:38619) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a51wj-0000Sa-Ow for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 20:47:33 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a51we-00042l-31 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Dec 2015 02:47:28 +0100 Original-Received: from nl106-137-244.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 05 Dec 2015 02:47:28 +0100 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-244.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 05 Dec 2015 02:47:28 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 46 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-244.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pErG7d2RQKf6dMaahEocbWIoGaw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:108300 Archived-At: "B. T. Raven" writes: > Anyway, wait for more authoritative suggestions. > Often I have to fall back on Chatzilla or another > client when dal.net won't connect. I don't know if > the problem is in one of my Emacs settings or what. Jude DaShiell writes: > irc in emacs gets disconnected every time when > connecting to freenode.net which is where erc goes > to connect. Why this is, I don't know. Okaaay... In theory as well as practice, unless practice is at an embarrassingly low level (and a wierd one at that), the IRC client shouldn't one bit influence the status of IRC as a network, and the client should be able to connect to any server that any other client is able to connect to. If not, the IRC protocol isn't implemented correctly - and this is something we normally take for granted when discussing clients. E.g., when we say Gnus is better than Thunderbird, we mean we prefer the Gnus *interface*, we appreciate Gnus being part of Emacs, the configurability and Elisping, and so on - we don't mean that Thunderbird is incapable of delivering and fetching the actual mails. With ERC, these variables (setq erc-server "irc.freenode.net") (setq erc-port 6667) are prefixed `erc-' but that refers to them being part of the ERC software; ERC is still the client and the server is the server of the IRC network - so by changing that variable value, ERC should be able to connect to virtually all servers (except some for non-technology reasons). -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573