From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 11:35:24 -0600 Message-ID: <87d1r46ffn.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <64a52598-ad53-498c-993c-67d7827dbdfc@default> <838u1uuuau.fsf@gnu.org> <878u1um2xl.fsf@thinkpad.rath.org> <87io0w6g7j.fsf@red-bean.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457458569 22729 80.91.229.3 (8 Mar 2016 17:36:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 17:36:09 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 08 18:36:04 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1adLY5-0005v3-CI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 18:35:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36255 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adLY4-0006vO-U9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 12:35:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38572) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adLXf-0006vI-2Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 12:35:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adLXb-0004Bd-Rw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 12:35:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ig0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22b]:32774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adLXb-0004BT-N2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 12:35:27 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ig0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id ig19so57382427igb.0 for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:35:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:subject:references:reply-to:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=qAvqH8Vsl3IX1MHcDNSrPKQD5SY+1FxOnaVF/N2SP6c=; b=rU4eBaT9n93eEcx6EP9QQtdEsm6ngN6NxrBBZjKFnN+n3f4dksqMOQyAw5oi2mXPy9 ph2I8HhN4HA3g6Xx2H5Cgvxz+mhtWaBxYYbaVkjR+a3C2LP8UNKb4+h+TCIq7YQvyCLL UvzZBZvWiLqTLHr3vzjHEJB/Ru/jDX1n482fI0kCT3Cg7IBKjx2UXhTBd31p5rge+1m0 4DSQXgY3FXV96DPs91mhJ8vpiUdBsrCw7n6FERaa4urVifv2hM6Zp8ZlU9vftdJBtQvv DQFXSPoZlEIjCMdCoO5hhdW1yk4JcIrHxw2iHLhi3cV2VWyor6I8wuG6dEHCf1P0G32P M4fA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:subject:references:reply-to:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=qAvqH8Vsl3IX1MHcDNSrPKQD5SY+1FxOnaVF/N2SP6c=; b=eIrIOUZCEcO2mcWPDcg2roZvK8zUK8H/jxhNqG5ian5n7YPYKJLlLzrSlDhCs96M6D ialn5L72loUbCoXvmktybyS6utsOJqQHRQrgcwE5Wqdob4FsS/N4px7YyCTp0PsBlwZa 0FxGYm8Icy2PwP6dMpzsFBH2PxhcBd6buKPcM3ZffgcVBIXspwbNlUw1YzUcq1snvNyd blvAYU/uLwGgdvk+Pcr6adkEHva/LA8I753D0FOgyLfPMpiAgyZk/Tuy5eFTnBKzw+a1 HZY12kKFzusgclHnPO0RAI9L44uZ18dewZEp61tHJ/FYKjbdWTdkvZ0LI2cY/Xp5Q9// lYTw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLkU6riF1BtVmT9xyDykBChB9T2X3pgr0m5KByavwg7RZnQfsUgLbcrWknH4lQk0A== X-Received: by 10.50.28.49 with SMTP id y17mr18723398igg.51.1457458526973; Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:35:26 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from floss (74-92-190-114-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [74.92.190.114]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x69sm1516849ioi.16.2016.03.08.09.35.24 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:35:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:21:20 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201183 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: >>>>>> Karl Fogel writes: >> So the only remaining question is about where information should be stored >> (and, if there is duplication, whether that duplication should be maintained >> manually or automatically). The question of what the information looks like >> is, I hope, already settled. > >Yes, I was only mentioning it for the sake of completeness. We have already >accomplished the second bullet of option #2, and have no intention of changing >that, as it does have a positive impact on our commit message quality. 100% agreed, and glad to hear it!