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X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 572905BA.000 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 572905BA.000 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:117685 Archived-At: >> Right, but it's not like this is new in 25 or anything, it's always been >> like that. > Oh, yeah, it's always been bad. People just notice more now that Emacs > has a web browser. Yes, I'm sure I'm not the only person who's changed his working habits to use eww for a number of daily tasks. In my case, it's due to the easily accessible "&" binding -- such a simple idea, and it's what made eww useful. (I was using w3m before, but never as much as I use eww now.) The consequence is that we use eww on random, uncontrolled pages on a regular basis, and if it causes Emacs to hang, that's really annoying. In some sense, eww is a victim of its success -- we're not interested in new features, we've got "&" for when eww fails, but we're very much grateful for any improvement in stability and performance. Ceterum censeo bugum 17976 saciendum esse. Thanks for your help, -- Juliusz