From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: debbugs-gnu-bugs shows unanswered bugs as handled Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 17:29:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87d1nv1wof.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87inxpjr83.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1465140587 10071 80.91.229.3 (5 Jun 2016 15:29:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:29:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tino Calancha Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 05 17:29:38 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b9Zze-000819-24 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 17:29:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37553 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b9Zzd-0007Yo-D3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 11:29:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48268) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b9ZzY-0007Xx-7z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 11:29:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b9ZzS-0002di-15 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 11:29:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:49625) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b9ZzR-0002dM-Nj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 11:29:25 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.59.15]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MCLcP-1bIgfw0jUf-009AGX; Sun, 05 Jun 2016 17:29:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Tino Calancha's message of "Sun, 5 Jun 2016 23:50:34 +0900 (JST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:fwwQGWaWsZRC+p/8IOOuWJw8vwPIcgIvuvA8Ezt9P9l4cNIMo1C mT9DOh7+sxZcs615jSqm542CEksoIy74xf8C2He3T3ugSl7LhftdTKlHFPPrgNSHcA9fyNa /+wpjRyz6Z/9wxQ8aBIBLKExgaJMalDYWQesxAmKvjrUBd3o9kn4bPvOwmdMy2fv+76CK5w Z+AtEr41t2pfD6bxMvjwg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:wQS/nQVlN+k=:CUebwKBCvgRUm7cntkZmNN aBMqjVXeImNgL71fOsT+m2+H96J1VHGMxVHk5XauWRlaZKCRrmXeOr47dSfffGcNujj22KEJN +5OVbM9j4xxYZscm1ICSgeODK4C+5olDddbMapwXBDxEhTUReL8WluMEnjNNW51wn/OFYA1Ls xAXIZd6YuA9CmZRHFvyI7KUWc3t+rHtUOo0HieAQySSlqM2Yj21+KamtQ2dCHSQhARVClDxFx 2wjlKs9Iug1jAcLiB25n3W60E7GDSFmC5GlzFJKf+WY7ulImFMyoe5Xk6tsZ1gI3yvXsTRoxK AG8cwU+k/9VEnuwHsW5dAL3mvXRJpKh151WS2ccB6OvpeYzpDTwZNAXh5jRQKjvA9P3rrVZ5G PRQ3VnKR/raqCsCI5B8HgmGyClrVVuKFhBLux4nC0Y7FrE+GrrFbiuaNCKKqkg+rz0hpqrMHK 0OUHOeDgWXYGTR9ulXW2KEaeKclBqwJG7Bfij199xjM+7hJYWZ6zNJ9ND2xgKprqX1Sntvg4K Kj9OOFNquoXKwpJbO9upQ6DJ1HidIh3tfec6IoAuvh4uz0yWFhuibhJRYef3TwB7X4OwU3Akl z1puBQYF41DTnRleOUNkCdlveKq0p0d/cFPMxcqRbnhgc9tQioDvM0bdShoscpC94iFPhpGlw D2kOvBc6qKQ96h0rexGcnAOXcM1Bvc8cQs/QVmf/fhQHbDKIpWeDs+u85npEgpnBESA5XTW4/ u9e20UHZJqYUI6GTIfLfBteAGoQvQ0i4V3GarGDSGiVWmMJqcYnF/pOsyWkgVaACnnTMM4Xh X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.15 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:204205 Archived-At: Tino Calancha writes: > Hi Michael, Hi Tino, > Unfortunately, i don't see that the field 'owner gets always a value. > AFAICT it never gets a value. Why this field is not always updated? > > If each time that one maintainer answer one bug, the field > 'owner would be updated (adding get his/her name if still not there) > then it would be trivial to classify one bug as 'new or 'handled. The idea of `owner' is different. It is not set automatically. But everybody is allowd to declare herself as owner of a bug, by sending an appropriate control message to the debbugs server, see the section "3.3 Control Messages" of the debbugs user guide. With this a developer declares publicly, that she is working on the bug, and nobody else needs to care about. This would be a valuable information. Sadly, as you have observed, this is used rarely. I have done it for some few bugs (4604,6850,8860). > Wouldn't be ok if 'owner gets as value one list of maintaneirs? > I would suggest the value of 'owner to be all the maintainers > answering such bug. No, because if somebody is answering to a bug it doesn't mean she feels responsible for that bug. > Regards, > > Tino Best regards, Michael.