From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nix Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bug#21182 (was Removing bugs from the blockers) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 12:33:28 +0100 Message-ID: <87d1np9t2v.fsf@esperi.org.uk> References: <26343.1465506595@allegro.localdomain> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1465558472 30048 80.91.229.3 (10 Jun 2016 11:34:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 11:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Mike Kupfer Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 10 13:34:30 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bBKhp-0007El-8L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:34:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39920 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bBKho-0007V7-FY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 07:34:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bBKhB-0007Uw-BH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 07:33:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bBKh7-0003UH-48 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 07:33:48 -0400 Original-Received: from icebox.esperi.org.uk ([81.187.191.129]:58152 helo=mail.esperi.org.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bBKh6-0003U9-Tg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 07:33:45 -0400 Original-Received: from spindle (nix@spindle.srvr.nix [192.168.14.15]) by mail.esperi.org.uk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id u5ABXSqv004589; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 12:33:28 +0100 Emacs: it's all fun and games, until somebody tries to edit a file. In-Reply-To: <26343.1465506595@allegro.localdomain> (Mike Kupfer's message of "Thu, 09 Jun 2016 14:09:55 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC--Metrics: spindle 1282; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 81.187.191.129 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:204272 Archived-At: On 9 Jun 2016, Mike Kupfer told this: > Nix wrote: > >> > 21182 -- the blamed commit seems unrelated, so should probably be >> > tagged not reproducible >> >> [...] (I suspect it is a >> bug of some sort related to work's rather bizarre Beehive mail system, > > I use Beehive at $DAYJOB, and I sometimes use Gnus (both Emacs 24.5 and > Emacs 25) for it. I haven't seen the symptoms reported in the bug, > though I have seen other issues (bug 22590 in particular). > > Do you use the Gnus agent or registry? (I use neither one.) I use the registry, but not the agent. > Can you look at the messages using some other application, e.g., > Thunderbird or Zimbra? Does the other application show the messages as > read? Yes -- indeed, I will rely on this in testing, since otherwise I'd have no real way to mark the contents of my "sacrificial mailbox" as unread again to retest :) thank goodness it only does it on entry to the group, not on every refresh, or I'd be unable to test this without wrecking all the read marks on all my work email! > When Gnus shows the message as read, what mark does it use ("O", "M", > etc)? I honestly can't remember, but I think it was O (M is rare enough that I remember it when it appears). I'll check when I replicate this, probably this weekend. -- NULL && (void)