From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric S Fraga Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 16:28:58 +0100 Organization: CPSE, Department of Chemical Engineering, University College London (UCL) Message-ID: <87d1n1mix1.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> References: <87a8ijreus.fsf@red-bean.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467128271 32627 80.91.229.3 (28 Jun 2016 15:37:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 15:37:51 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 28 17:37:43 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bHv52-0003cW-1y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:37:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37638 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bHv51-0006wp-6u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:37:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48413) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bHuyw-0002GR-Gk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:31:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bHuyr-0007Y1-KB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:31:21 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:46397) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bHuyr-0007Xn-DO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 11:31:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bHuyd-000775-WB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:31:04 +0200 Original-Received: from 149.254.181.220 ([149.254.181.220]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:31:03 +0200 Original-Received: from e.fraga by 149.254.181.220 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2016 17:31:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 149.254.181.220 X-Url: http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucecesf/ User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UUbBR4uS8v45LEgpjcuvjJxdqBs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:204861 Archived-At: On Saturday, 18 Jun 2016 at 14:06, Richard Stallman wrote: [...] > That may be true, but I stand by what I said. > It is fine to have a structured editing mode, but it was > bad design to make other facilities depend on it in this way. But it is the structure that provides the basis for those facilities? Without the facilities, you end up with outline mode which, to me, never really seemed to fulfil any useful task in my normal work practices beyond simply writing hierarchical text... -- Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D)