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From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Requiring elisp that comes with Emacs
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:39:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d1f39tv4.fsf@wanadoo.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87k29bl4v0.fsf@gmail.com

Narendra Joshi <narendraj9@gmail.com> writes:

>>     What happens when we do `require'?
>>
>>
>> It guarantees the relevant feature is available, generally as a side
>> effect of loading the named package. I believe the package much
>> "provide" its name. If not found, an error is raised. Full details
>> can be found here:
>>
>> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/
>> Named-Features.html
>
> My question was more about whether we need to `require` packages that
> come with Emacs itself, e.g. org-mode.

Emacs comes with lots of packages. A typical user only needs a fraction
of those packages. Every package takes some time to load and then uses
resources. Loading everything by default would be a waste.

Another reason for explicitly requiring a package such as `vc' (which
typically is automatically loaded when certain conditions are met) is to
ensure that certain functions and/or variables are available because you
use them in your code (in your .emacs, for instance).

>> While under the covers I imagine the implementation is much
>> different, I my mental model is similar to Python's import statement
>> or C++'s namespace statement. All three make a series of names
>> available to you, though require is a global operation, not local to
>> a particular module or translation unit.
>
> I think every file in the `load-path' would need to be read for a
> (provide 'something) at the end while trying to
> (require 'something). Languages that make sure that the name of the
> module is the same as the name of the file do not have to look inside
> the file. This is all speculation and I do not know how exactly things
> are done in reality.

Type

C-h f require [ENTER]

A *Help* buffer will popup with the docstring for `require'. There it is
explained that the file for the require-d package is inferred from the
package name.




  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-31 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-30 16:52 Requiring elisp that comes with Emacs Narendra Joshi
2017-01-30 18:50 ` Skip Montanaro
2017-01-31 13:46   ` Narendra Joshi
2017-01-31 14:39     ` Óscar Fuentes [this message]
2017-01-31 18:06       ` Skip Montanaro
2017-01-31 20:03         ` Óscar Fuentes
2017-01-31 14:50     ` Skip Montanaro
2017-01-31 20:01       ` Narendra Joshi
2017-01-31 20:40         ` Skip Montanaro
2017-02-01 10:07           ` hector
2017-02-01 15:10           ` Narendra Joshi
2017-02-01 15:53     ` Eric Abrahamsen

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