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Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:57:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zony ([45.2.7.65]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id d10sm5167266itd.9.2017.02.06.16.57.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:57:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <82c8d359-fd05-4bff-9dba-29d2738d435d@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 5 Feb 2017 10:44:29 -0800 (PST)") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:129045 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > I thought that the point of creating `cl-lib.el' was to give people a > library of the most-used CL constructs and still let them avoid loading > all of `cl.el'. If we are, in effect, loading `cl-extra.el' now nearly > by default then what's the point of separating out `cl-lib.el'? AFAIK, the point of cl-lib is to have the CL constructs in a separate namespace, so that loading cl-lib doesn't change the semantics of existing code that might not expect it (unlike cl.el). This change was done by [1: 59b5723c9b], the commit message is a bit terse. But it looks like the idea is to use `describe-symbol-backends' for this in order to make it extendable, specifically to let cl-extra add an entry for classes. 1: 2015-07-07 02:14:16 -0400 59b5723c9b613f14cd60cd3239cfdbc0d2343b18 Add online-help support to describe types