From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Japanese input in Linux environment (fcitx-mozc) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2017 09:17:00 +0200 Message-ID: <87d1agi7wz.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <834lvt9mxw.fsf@gnu.org> <87h8zsia9q.fsf@debian.uxu> <20170607070231.GA15570@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496819861 3638 195.159.176.226 (7 Jun 2017 07:17:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 07:17:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 07 09:17:35 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dIVDj-0000Rx-Dw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 09:17:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41590 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dIVDl-0005VM-Fx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 03:17:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49919) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dIVDM-0005OY-9b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 03:17:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dIVDJ-0002N6-4B for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 03:17:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=51028 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dIVDI-0002Mq-Th for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 03:17:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dIVDB-0007NG-1U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2017 09:17:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:CUWLY63UWrQI5huol6Z18dS/HjA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113387 Archived-At: writes: > I, for example, use a qwertz keyboard. Many French > speakers use an azerty keyboard (so, in > Jean-Christophe's case, qwerty might be seen as an > exception). > > All generalizations suck :) Well, they *are* the foundation of understanding. Anyway this discussion has become too confusing... As a programmer everything is or should be in Anglo-American and the ; [ ] \ keys/chars readily available. I suppose qwertz or qwerty doesn't matter if that holds true. For example the Swedish layout is qwerty to but has those important keys hidden (shift) as those keys are the three special Swedish chars. So it is a matter what to do as a non-computer person, when still using the computer. As for me, the compose key is optimal as the odd chars out are only three, so to have the keyboard layout the same for both languages is great. How many odd chars there are in the French language I don't know; and it is also a matter of how much you are a computer person and how much you are a non-computer person using the computer. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573