From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: ESC vs Meta for shifted keys Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <87d0z71985.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1523366840 22978 195.159.176.226 (10 Apr 2018 13:27:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 13:27:20 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 10 15:27:16 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f5tIp-0005s9-Sl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:27:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45201 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f5tKu-0007mq-6g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 09:29:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38193) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f5tKS-0007mJ-DX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 09:28:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f5tKP-0006UA-0w for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 09:28:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=51581 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f5tKO-0006Tq-Pr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 09:28:52 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f5tIG-0005JB-Su for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:26:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:V+6FkQob0iHfqYCi+l0M5jeaO3w= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:116440 Archived-At: So Iʼve (finally) got an actual Meta key configured on my keyboard. Iʼve always believed that Esc-as-prefix and Meta were interchangable, but that doesnʼt seem to be the case: C-h k ESC SHIFT => ESC (translated from ) runs the command backward-word C-h k ESC => ESC (translated from ) runs the command backward-word C-h k M-S- => (translated from ) runs the command left-word So this looks like emacs is not taking into account the SHIFT modifier here? Or is there some default keyboard translation going on that I need to disable? Robert