From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Loris Bennett" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Using R-mail in Emacs Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:34:10 +0200 Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin Message-ID: <87d0tgh6rx.fsf@hornfels.zedat.fu-berlin.de> References: <86va7afpda.fsf@zoho.com> <83musmktmv.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2hxstkw.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <837ejplc7p.fsf@gnu.org> <87zhwlzct5.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536910408 15168 195.159.176.226 (14 Sep 2018 07:33:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 07:33:28 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 14 09:33:24 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0ibS-0003pm-GU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:33:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49274 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0idY-0002mr-TD for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 03:35:32 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 57 Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de k8v8J44ooFVQTq0YzjVIPglIB69tfOFrM31CYvWMkpiGcm Cancel-Lock: sha1:GB8LsdinB2yaFr5ii9aPK2oHNOU= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:223773 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:117898 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Robert Pluim >> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 16:34:14 +0200 >> >> > You mean, Gnus can know when you have no more use of some email >> > message and it can be discarded? How does it do that? >> >> It does (at least) time based auto-expiration. Probably score based as >> well [1], plus you can mark messages as expirable/unexpirable. > > The oldest email in my INBOX is from 18 years ago, and I still need it > from time to time. I guess time-based expiration is not for me. The default is for articles not to expire - you have to mark an email explicitly as expirable for it to get deleted at some point. >> > When you have no good idea what to search for, having related email >> > messages together in the same folder will help finding what you are >> > looking for faster. So I find that some classification is still >> > useful, although I have search capabilities set up that can find any >> > email in split-seconds. >> >> Iʼm also a fan of the 'big ball of email' model. Filing stuff into >> sub-folders just makes me forget where I put it. > > I don't have a lot of folders: less than 2 dozen. Rmail is customized > to automatically guess the right folder given certain keywords in a > message, and it guesses right with high probability. My experience is > that the classification into a small number of folders helps a lot to > find material, so I guess to each one their own. For many years I have used a less than a dozen folders with Gnus splitting mechanism for sorting incoming mail, although lately I have moved to server-side rules to allow me to read mail more selectively on devices without Gnus. However, I feel the many-folder approach does have some drawbacks. Does an email from my wife about school need to be filed in "family" or "school"? Similar but more subtle situations occur with my work mail. For this reason I find myself thinking that just one or two folders with a good search mechanism would be a more flexible solution. I've had a look at mu4e but the whole offline IMAP construction puts me off a bit. I always thought it was necessary because IMAP is fundamentally just slow, but searching through my mail using an Outlook web client is, to my chagrin as a bit of a FOSS die-hard, extremely fast. Does anyone know why that should be? Cheers, Loris PS: Eli, shouldn't that 18-year-old mail in your INBOX have been filed away into one of your two dozen folders by now 😉? Or is it maybe one of those tricky corner-cases 😅? -- This signature is currently under construction.