From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 17:34:35 +0200 Message-ID: <87d0kjspdg.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <46f308ff-5a70-8ccc-310b-48167088ff5a@yandex.ru> <87woirsvdb.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="134459"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 15 17:35:07 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvvs-000Ypl-Uk for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 17:35:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38762 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvvr-0006YJ-Rh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 11:35:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47581) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvvY-0006Wr-Ju for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 11:34:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvvX-0002e9-PW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 11:34:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=48196 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvvX-0002dH-I8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 11:34:43 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvvV-000YTs-Vh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 17:34:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:KjZ8uerJwSYpRPgQCRYKJpdIvdQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120391 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> As C-Mode has no associated terminal nor it composes messages, the >> request would amount to "unbind C-c C-c", > > That's right. > > In my book, prog-mode should bind C-c C-c to `compile` That sounds good. >> Pretending that every mode conforms to the same rules is >> counterproductive, because there are vast differences among them. > > Pretending that every detail of every major mode is unique is similarly > counter-productive. Nobody argued for that. About the pain associated with change: I started using Emacs for coding C++. When years later I migrated to a new, lispy language, which mode I derived from elisp-mode, guess what keybinding I copied from CC-Mode. Changing long-established things that are deeply engraved in our muscle memory is not easy, and on that aspect I can sympathize with the CC-Mode maintainer. I, personally, would accept your suggested change, adapt my config and be done with it, but it is natural that others would react with irritation.