From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Tomas Hlavaty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2020 18:15:50 +0200 Message-ID: <87d06dv689.fsf@logand.com> References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <86blno9yle.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87d0845msg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xgjasw.fsf@yahoo.com> <875zdwjais.fsf@yahoo.com> <6a198677-41b6-4dbd-39d0-2b01550d53cf@yandex.ru> <32f6a2ce-e30f-059f-dcd4-233d666a10a1@yandex.ru> <833679boji.fsf@gnu.org> <83sgf9a6rb.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="24912"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: sb@dod.no, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 05 18:18:00 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jhF2e-0006MY-2s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 18:18:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55038 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhF2d-0002Ve-2N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 12:17:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34886) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhF1l-0001gh-3f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 12:17:06 -0400 Original-Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]:52448) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhF1i-0001FQ-On; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 12:17:04 -0400 Original-Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DC0721A1629; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 18:15:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: emacs 26.3 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) In-Reply-To: <83sgf9a6rb.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/05 12:15:54 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251910 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > See window-text-pixel-size as one example of what we have. The > underlying functionality is even more powerful. (window-text-pixel-size) returns nonsense in console. >> > We already can display such thin lines, see, for example, help-fns.el >> > (search for ":height"). No X-level graphics is needed. X graphics is seems to be needed.