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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, 43866@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#43866: 26.3; italian postfix additions
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:40:48 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d01kvbnj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k0vszw0e.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 14 Oct 2020 18:07:29 +0300")

>> > How about making a new input method for those?  It seems to me that
>> > C-x 8 is already too "fat".
>>
>> Yes, a new method might be useful as well.  But since such method can't
>> be enabled all the time because such sequences as "= E" should be inserted
>> literally in normal circumstances.  So such method needs to be enabled
>> temporarily, and it takes more time to enable/disable it, while it's
>> useful only to insert a single special character sometimes, it would be
>> much easier to type some prefix key before typing "= E" to insert €
>> when such a need arises occasionally.
>
> But turning an input method on and off is just 1 key, C-\, whereas

1 key C-\ to enable, and 1 key C-\ to disable.  Also might need to select
another input method name from 'C-u C-\' when also using other input methods.

> C-x 8 is 2 keys, and not very convenient sequence to type, at least on
> QWERTY keyboards.

I agree, C-x 8 is not easy to type.

> So it looks like a dedicated input method will still be a win.

A win for some users, not a win for other users, so adding both
(an input method and a prefix key) would be fine for all.

> I don't think it's right that the only Unicode input method we have is
> TeX -- that is great for TeX users, but many people don't use (La)TeX,
> and will find it unintuitive to type the TeX sequences.

It seems the TeX input method requires typing whole Unicode names,
or at least unambiguous parts of names, e.g. '\euro' inserts €,
'\smile' inserts ⌣, but can't type '\smiling face with sunglasses'.
Also I see a hex Unicode input method in uni-input.el that supports
e.g. U<hex> or u<hex>, RFC1345 mnemonics in rfc1345.el,
SGML entities in sgml-input.el.  So adding a X11 Compose method would be handy.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-14 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-08 12:05 bug#43866: 26.3; italian postfix additions Francesco Potortì
2020-10-08 12:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-08 12:34   ` Francesco Potortì
2020-10-08 12:39   ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-08 12:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-08 13:54       ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-08 14:24         ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-08 14:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-08 13:26     ` Francesco Potortì
2020-10-08 14:00       ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-13 20:07     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-14  2:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14  8:07         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-14 15:07           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-14 19:40             ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2020-10-15  2:34               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-19 20:45                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-19 23:12                   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-20 18:42                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-20 14:12                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-20 14:47                     ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-20 15:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-20 18:44                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-20 19:05                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21  8:11                       ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-21 14:29                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 14:40                           ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-21 15:23                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 17:30                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-20 19:56                     ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21 14:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 17:23                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21 18:16                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 18:27                             ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-21 18:35                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-21 19:39                                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-22 12:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-22 20:56                                     ` bug#44155: Print integers as characters Juri Linkov
2020-10-22 22:39                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-23  8:16                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-23  8:32                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-24 19:53                                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-25 17:22                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-25 19:09                                               ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-25 19:53                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-27 20:08                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-28 15:51                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-28 19:41                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-29 14:20                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-29 21:00                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-30  7:35                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-31 20:11                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-31 23:27                                                                 ` Glenn Morris
2020-11-01  7:58                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 15:13                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 18:39                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 18:51                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 19:13                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 19:41                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 20:16                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 12:03                                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-01 18:35                                         ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 20:52                                           ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-02 21:36                                             ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-02 23:03                                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-03  8:30                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-03 15:24                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-03 18:47                                                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-03 19:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-04 11:03                                                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-04 15:38                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-04 16:46                                                           ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-04 16:58                                                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-06 13:02                                                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-04-30 12:19                                     ` bug#43866: 26.3; italian postfix additions Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-30 12:29                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-30 14:49                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-30 15:26                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-30 18:49                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-29 13:35                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-15  3:52         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-14  4:38       ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-14  8:11         ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-14 10:43         ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-15  3:54           ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-14 14:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-08 15:23 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-08 15:35   ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-08 16:22     ` Francesco Potortì
2020-10-08 15:42   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-08 16:10   ` Francesco Potortì
2020-10-08 17:18     ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-08 17:28       ` Francesco Potortì
2020-10-08 17:59       ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-08 19:55         ` Francesco Potortì
2020-10-09  4:42         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-09 11:26           ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-09 11:53             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2020-10-09 12:45               ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-09 14:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-09 14:48                   ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-09 15:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-10 20:54                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-12  9:26                         ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-09 15:05                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-09 15:08                     ` Robert Pluim
2020-10-09 15:28                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-09 15:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-09 15:21                       ` Robert Pluim

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