From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs i18n
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 14:08:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87czrbc1jm.fsf@zoho.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: trinity-1c2258a7-d96b-4a88-8f2c-27d3a8bf4fae-1626862591775@3c-app-mailcom-bs01
Christopher Dimech wrote:
>>> you've been mostly with educated people, not with people
>>> who struggle learning, or are in less educated portion
>>> of society.
>>
>> But the case is people don't know it good enough!
>>
>> You guys on the other hand know it so well you can even do
>> professional translations...
>>
>> So you, the Elysium ones, will attempt to help the ignorant
>> masses by translating ... uhm, CS and programming software
>> manuals?!
>>
>> Hey, just a suggestion, shouldn't you elite guys instead
>> try to bring literacy, basic math, and punctuality, to your
>> poor countrymen that cannot read English 2021?
>
> Should not local schools do that?
Of course. The schools, the societies.
Speaking frankly, our French Emacs guys should do their
professions to the ever improving best of their abilities, and
when that is done ... uhm, there is something that comes to
mind ... their families? unsure, does that make sense?
If they have ANY time left after that there is one and only
one allowed activity: Emacs and Elisp.
Translate huge books from English to French? Oh no, can't
have that. Nop-e. 403 Forbidden. Is what it is!
Possible loophole: What if they use Emacs while translating?
Allowed, but only if they spend at least 50% of the time not
actually translating but instead working on perfecting the
Elisp CAT software and associated English-French database (and
French-English for that matter, we just reverse the lists and
transpose the matrixes). This is how far I got BTW, and there
is more on that from the people on this list...
https://dataswamp.org/~incal/emacs-init/ecat-incal.el
Please use it as a ... head start!
I think this is an area where FOSS and GNU/Linux (BSD etc) and
Emacs is a little bit behind, so if you guys can put us on the
top there just like with Gnus for mail we are, inspired by the
ideology of techno-totalitarianism perhaps, willing to grant
certain favors and exceptions, to show our appreciation.
Maybe a compromise, can you write the manual simultaneously in
several languages, in English _and_ French for example?
--
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal
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2021-07-17 9:27 Emacs i18n Narendra Joshi
2021-07-17 9:36 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-07-17 9:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-17 13:32 ` mrf
2021-07-17 14:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-17 20:00 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-07-17 20:57 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-17 22:06 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-07-17 22:55 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-07-18 2:26 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-07-19 1:53 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-18 6:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-19 1:52 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-19 1:51 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-19 5:28 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-07-21 5:24 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 6:32 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-07-21 9:45 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 10:16 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-21 12:08 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [this message]
2021-07-21 12:36 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-07-21 8:28 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-21 8:39 ` tomas
2021-07-21 9:18 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-21 10:52 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 11:53 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-21 12:56 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-21 13:23 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 13:39 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-07-21 14:05 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 14:47 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-07-21 17:55 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 18:15 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-07-21 18:26 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 18:27 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-21 18:42 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 19:06 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 19:40 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 20:49 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-21 21:44 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 21:58 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 22:55 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-22 7:05 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-22 8:11 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-22 8:16 ` tomas
2021-07-22 9:24 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-22 5:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-22 10:04 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-21 21:57 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-22 7:09 ` tomas
2021-07-22 8:17 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-22 9:18 ` lisa-asket
2021-07-22 3:48 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-22 4:08 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-22 7:10 ` tomas
2021-07-21 14:22 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 17:02 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-21 17:49 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-19 11:43 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-07-21 6:11 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 7:02 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 8:43 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 10:04 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-21 10:14 ` tomas
2021-07-21 10:34 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-07-21 11:16 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 13:01 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-21 13:51 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-22 8:15 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-07-22 17:32 ` Yuri Khan
2021-07-22 18:02 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-07-21 7:31 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-07-21 7:47 ` Thibaut Verron
2021-07-21 9:59 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 10:28 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-21 11:49 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-21 12:44 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-21 13:20 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-23 6:03 ` Jean Louis
2021-07-23 9:22 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-27 20:52 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-07-17 22:03 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-07-19 1:46 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-07-18 6:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-17 20:06 ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-07-17 22:03 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-07-18 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-03-21 2:14 ` Richard Stallman
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2019-03-23 2:29 ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-18 0:35 bug#34520: delete-matching-lines should report how many lines it deleted 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2019-02-27 21:36 ` Juri Linkov
2019-02-28 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-28 21:33 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-01 3:59 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-02 20:55 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-03 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-03 15:31 ` Emacs i18n (was: bug#34520: delete-matching-lines should report how many lines it deleted) Eli Zaretskii
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2019-03-21 21:34 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-21 21:56 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-21 22:05 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-21 23:46 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-22 8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 16:10 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-22 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 17:16 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-22 17:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-22 23:17 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-03-21 21:17 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-21 21:59 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-22 8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-23 21:50 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-24 3:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-24 21:55 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-24 23:31 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-25 21:32 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-25 22:31 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-26 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-26 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-26 16:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-26 22:35 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-27 3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-28 14:56 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
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2019-03-27 1:35 ` Paul Eggert
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2019-04-24 20:18 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-25 3:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-25 9:04 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-25 21:02 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-26 3:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-27 23:06 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-25 10:52 ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-03-25 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-25 21:11 ` Juri Linkov
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2019-03-04 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-04 18:37 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-04 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-05 2:09 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-05 21:58 ` Emacs i18n Juri Linkov
2019-03-06 2:16 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-06 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-06 19:47 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-06 20:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-07 1:52 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-07 3:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-08 4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-08 8:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-08 4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-08 4:33 ` Elias Mårtenson
2019-03-08 8:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-09 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-09 7:54 ` Paul Eggert
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2019-03-10 3:05 ` Richard Stallman
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2019-03-11 1:20 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-11 3:52 ` Paul Eggert
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2019-03-07 22:25 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-08 7:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-08 4:18 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-08 4:11 ` Richard Stallman
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2019-03-06 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-06 19:39 ` Paul Eggert
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2019-03-07 1:33 ` Paul Eggert
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2019-03-07 16:06 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-07 4:35 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-07 16:04 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-08 4:09 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-11 21:48 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-11 22:51 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-12 21:45 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-17 21:23 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-18 21:20 ` Juri Linkov
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2019-03-11 23:59 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-12 9:16 ` Michael Albinus
2019-03-06 19:47 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-06 20:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-07 1:43 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-07 3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-07 3:44 ` Richard Stallman
2019-03-07 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-07 22:29 ` Juri Linkov
2019-03-08 1:48 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
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2019-03-08 15:11 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
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2019-03-09 2:44 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2019-03-09 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-09 8:37 ` Michael Albinus
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2019-03-09 19:55 ` Paul Eggert
2019-03-09 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2019-03-09 20:04 ` Michael Albinus
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2019-03-09 19:22 ` Paul Eggert
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2019-03-09 20:48 ` Paul Eggert
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