From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Problem with TLS when sending emails Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 17:44:31 +0200 Message-ID: <87czgk5b1c.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87k0as6q30.fsf@t14.reltub.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22526"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Alessandro Bertulli , "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Leo Butler Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 11 17:45:28 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nooWl-0005fr-NU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 17:45:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34664 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nooWj-0006NZ-Vj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 11:45:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34602) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nooVv-0006Mz-HW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 11:44:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wm1-x333.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::333]:44890) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nooVt-0001s1-W3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2022 11:44:35 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x333.google.com with SMTP id k126-20020a1ca184000000b003943fd07180so1465097wme.3 for ; Wed, 11 May 2022 08:44:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version; bh=8E89+iFY8gIj40V/R2zm1zur8b8mOOrLAK0JeR4wh+A=; b=WcTCF6yn8tnl7p8drRKRxhn5Xcr3hcFj1YntrIFU6Y2KbgXn6Pw9+9nExnYVZUFI83 aTsmeMxQbNJ/rSoONC8vOq/cCmhrbAxBzHvvxfpOBYg10VmmAlJkZRaj+2lqe4utY5gz yGWX6QrB9VRdM8IKFpOGUa/KdDQczr+KRc9gsX6voR/rJ0bn/h+/kgJsIOSEY/cFgS7N rImF+LTLAOs/ukUF9MoMjU5iEgSLIInaRH8nT35aKmzGoo4XjjfLOG7uD+V5RoQesLPm bme6iIyATTCcLC2Jh4433c150wYvm85Krkx0P//i03Q7+KcZxFsxcVJ5xjE9lIyZdlEJ thKg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version; bh=8E89+iFY8gIj40V/R2zm1zur8b8mOOrLAK0JeR4wh+A=; b=73Oy7r6abZ4STwhziVwczITSlxKq8IQSFnwR29R3tnNpcNJM2nQOsd2xzk7Au1fNBJ ZAbGTd36GjWoF3lE3Ts0oYISKp9bhcD/gfsp+s2qCIgUgb9da+lAKpL6i24aFEntN+kL 9pkH+y31CLob+Xi8Ud/nf5Ed1NrPjLR8ov8/ZRGRLJgiDLgUHPwcnpST+mUYK1j0sEwB wwDt8RxTX9+5Sd/Kh5mFspXtj6/LddYYOY/J9LSQbUzCun7wAyIWtJzi7zTi9pSBC8cQ vOY5DOQHL6/jtTI5NkQMRokgQvY0OvgRiyJfdIDvI1AnTVaLvJTxMMUVUur5K54n3O+V dfPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530OitStvGk26Pvrn5DDhGmo/GSJVfCDAwrHa4LdGwblc5wIF03n y3+QSe5GkgjDvl9gUT0FgQrK4+O1V7U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxFLd81HUlX1NvvBYPLxxUjK22aUfDG+deSHW1xWkRwN2+kyxqkL+1HavCluIEqnFM5M2Rxog== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:4e86:b0:394:815b:19ec with SMTP id f6-20020a05600c4e8600b00394815b19ecmr5589044wmq.189.1652283872131; Wed, 11 May 2022 08:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rltb ([2a01:e0a:3f3:fb50:58fa:34f8:3a29:1f3e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id az14-20020a05600c600e00b003942a244f50sm88079wmb.41.2022.05.11.08.44.31 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 11 May 2022 08:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: <87k0as6q30.fsf@t14.reltub.ca> (Leo Butler's message of "Wed, 11 May 2022 15:34:12 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::333; envelope-from=rpluim@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x333.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137232 Archived-At: >>>>> On Wed, 11 May 2022 15:34:12 +0000, Leo Butler said: Leo> I have exactly the same configuration for gmail, except Leo> smtpmail-stream-type is nil (which according to the documentation, means Leo> the connection is upgraded with starttls if possible). That works fine. Leo> I have not tried Robert Pluim's suggestion to use port 465. That works as well. Whether you use it depends on how paranoid you are about STARTTLS downgrade attacks :-) Robert --