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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290712 Archived-At: Hi Handa, >> Then, based on the v1 patch, I will wait for Handa-san's review and then >> I will make the final patch. > > It seems that your patch has no prolem. Thank you for reviewing! >> The reduction of dictionaries would reduce the file size by less than >> half. While significant, how important is this in today's computing >> environment? >> In my personal opinion, I feel that reducing the vocabulary of the >> dictionary has more disadvantages than advantages. > > I agree. I know newcomers like me shouldn't be making important decisions, but do you think it would be realistic to remove the ability to reduce the vocabulary of the Japanese dictionary or make the ability to reduce the vocabulary of the Japanese dictionary optional, in a future version of the dictionary? Even if we apply this patch this time, we should consider what it should be in the future. I feel that many Japanese users do not use the standard Emacs Kanji conversion function, but I feel that this may just be an unfair assessment due to the limited vocabulary of the dictionary. If the dictionary vocabulary is not reduced, I expect that more users will appreciate the standard Emacs Kanji conversion function as being sufficient for their needs. Best Regards, -- Taiju