From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: completing-read depricated initial-input Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 11:32:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87czf1oxgk.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9100"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:kALW9YST7vf9dR/nvyeFMAtxhao= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 22 11:33:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o3wjW-00028x-3K for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 11:33:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42034 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3wjU-00023i-TK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 05:33:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34494) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3win-0001zL-2m for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 05:32:25 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:36864) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3wil-0001Cw-72 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 05:32:24 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o3wii-00011P-SR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2022 11:32:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137984 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: > New users do not usually know many keybinding sequences such > as `M-n` to show `DEF`. Maybe not but why can only do it as good and fast and powerful as possible, what some people may or may not know at some point of their learning curve can't influence that. >> Besides the utility of having an initial value that is >> different from a default. > > I agree to this notion as being heavy user of this function. No ... it doesn't work like that, if you can't say what that is it shouldn't be there. The default is the default, what is the initial value? Useful? Oh-no. What's wrong with this and when doesn't it work? I dare you ... (let ((name "Danger")) (read-string (format "name: [%s] " name) nil nil name) ) -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal