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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297421 Archived-At: Yuan Fu writes: > MIT license Which one? > So nothing prevents us from including it copyright-wise. The tree-sitter library does not have copyright assigned to the FSF. IMNHSO a text editor should be able to edit languages it supports out-of-the-box, with only system libraries and what is in emacs-28.2.tar.gz. There is no precedent for requiring a third party library that users have to build themselves to edit text comfortably. Thus, tree-sitter (or a 100% reproduction, which is my idea) should come with Emacs itself. Optional dependencies such as librsvg, libxml and gnutls are not precedent here - all three are widely available, and relate to features that are orthogonal to text editing.