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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298391 Archived-At: Jostein Kj=C3=B8nigsen writes: > On 24.10.2022 08:14, Bozhidar Batsov wrote: >> The patch seems fine to me, but I'm a bit skeptical about the whole >> rolling releases idea in general > > This is the default operation for MELPA, which arguably has more > popular packages than ELPA. To my knowledge all of the major packages on MELPA are also available via GNU or NonGNU ELPA, so I don't know if this is really an argument. >> How hard it is for people to actually update version timestamps >> themselves or to just stick to the *-devel repos if they don't want >> to cut releases? > > As a package-developer, I may release patches weekly, but I update > main versions maybe once every second year, if/when someone bothers me > about it. > > Not having to version things manually is a god-send. It really depends, I am certainly no recommending to enable this by default. The idea is just to accommodate people like you who prefer this mode of publishing releases.