From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Hlavaty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Verifying signed mail in Gnus Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2022 00:53:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87cza4dibn.fsf@logand.com> References: <87a65cz3xl.fsf@gmail.com> <87pme8w6w5.fsf@disroot.org> <878rkwxjis.fsf@gmail.com> <87wn8fzs58.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <875yfxdqow.fsf@thaodan.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5101"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rn?= Bidar , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 03 00:54:17 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oqNYk-00013K-Vz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2022 00:54:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqNYO-0003qb-1t; Wed, 02 Nov 2022 19:53:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqNYM-0003pG-Pl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2022 19:53:50 -0400 Original-Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oqNYH-0004J1-8X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2022 19:53:50 -0400 Original-Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0E4EE1A18E0; Thu, 3 Nov 2022 00:53:34 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: emacs 28.1 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) In-Reply-To: <875yfxdqow.fsf@thaodan.de> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140587 Archived-At: On Wed 02 Nov 2022 at 22:52, Bj=C3=B6rn Bidar wrot= e: > In Germany some of parts justice system support pgp, although I haven't > seen them distribute their keys on a keyserver. Are you sure? What parts of the justice system exactly? I find it hard to believe. For example, jurists have to use besondere elektronische Anwaltspostfach (beA); compulsory since 2022-01-01: Bereits seit dem 1.1.2018 gilt f=C3=BCr Rechtsanw=C3=A4ltinnen und Rechtsanw=C3=A4lte die passive Nutzungspflicht. Am 1.1.2022 ist als n=C3=A4chster Schritt die generelle aktive Nutzungspflicht eingef=C3=BChrt worden. Seitdem sind Rechtsanw=C3=A4ltin= nen und Rechtsanw=C3=A4lte fl=C3=A4chendeckend verpflichtet, den Gerichten Dokum= ente elektronisch zu =C3=BCbermitteln. Der Zugang zum beA sowie die beA-Webanwendung erfolgt wie gewohnt =C3=BCber https://www.bea-brak.de. Courts use something called EGVP. BNotK is in the process of centralising signatures (use their remote server instead of a local card). A lot of institutions are on that system. It seems to be very complex, custom, walled, mandatory messaging system without end-to-end encryption and soon (this year) with remote signatures provided by a third party delegated by BNotK. I would be surprised if anybody used PGP there.