From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Akib Azmain Turja via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.erc.general Subject: bug#29108: 25.3; ERC SASL support Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 11:51:44 +0600 Message-ID: <87cz9ughsf.fsf@disroot.org> References: <87h8ud92zl.fsf@gmail.com> <874jx4h6sk.fsf@neverwas.me> <875yhifujk.fsf_-_@neverwas.me> <87edw4swdk.fsf@neverwas.me> <878rljxfxs.fsf@neverwas.me> <87k04m4th8.fsf@neverwas.me> <87o7thlepf.fsf@neverwas.me> <87iljovkgo.fsf@disroot.org> <874jv81bn2.fsf@neverwas.me> <87iljoqaor.fsf@disroot.org> <87sfirml89.fsf@neverwas.me> Reply-To: Akib Azmain Turja Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10571"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-erc@gnu.org, 29108@debbugs.gnu.org, bandali@gnu.org, "J.P." To: Adam Porter Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 11 18:35:35 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1otXwE-0002UN-U7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 18:35:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1otXvo-0005Cm-3H; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:35:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1otXvj-0005Bk-2I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:35:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1otXvi-0001Si-Gn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:35:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1otXvh-0005EY-RG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:35:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Akib Azmain Turja Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2022 17:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 29108 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 29108-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B29108.166818809520093 (code B ref 29108); Fri, 11 Nov 2022 17:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 29108) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2022 17:34:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46656 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1otXva-0005E0-Vs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:34:55 -0500 Original-Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:50484) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1otXvY-0005Dp-MS for 29108@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 12:34:53 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0AC406A3; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 18:34:51 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: SPAM Filter at disroot.org Original-Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6QD-yyROz098; Fri, 11 Nov 2022 18:34:49 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1668188089; bh=UzbEow5UEExNxZ0z8VQHmByJLM56tLMfEPJvpyZH8x0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=EDj0L9V8VAK+l5k0O/Xxb39PMqHwgFli27iwGiYa5CEkz8V6W5wYU1XcNIyU39Hn2 Q03C9DeX9foMkQfzNw2ml2sCljYDj7zsGGPj+Np19mUsQVIP3wOPSKxEplAggtPzxa X/Hnz1VF0JZOXQzgOvyJC0O0WTDaQeB09waCCojtdzyDx9VzCZUHT4xzigTW5P3s7L WU1c37V/E15UMILXuykoltD+X9QRxc0qVXMOTfLsBdN8WOPfbh56bptqgpvBce+2Vu DPnIxbFk0jPNkco4avzEkorlnbaPBZs0z5lvAmCOUhYQNn/kuM3BB3MG62kAT3Ttzt /Uty00thtXI+g== In-Reply-To: (Adam Porter's message of "Thu, 10 Nov 2022 12:04:09 -0600") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:247605 gmane.emacs.erc.general:1976 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adam Porter writes: > On 11/9/22 23:28, J.P. wrote: > >> Akib Azmain Turja writes: > >>> But Adam Porter (CC'ing), the maintainer of ement.el (available on GNU >>> ELPA), a Matrix client, claims that auth-source is from the dark side[1] >>> and refused to support it claiming it's not suitable for general use[2]. > > Please note: I did not expect to be mentioned in this way here. It's > not my intention to speak poorly of others' software, especially in > public. In the Reddit post I made, I tried to be objective and show > the problems clearly with code examples. Sorry, I didn't want to hurt you, please forgive me. > > And that is merely my opinion, of course, based on the shortcomings I > noted (e.g. the lack of API to update a secret, the undocumented > error-handling signals, etc). I expect that, were I to use it in my > software, I would end up working around these problems and answering > users' support questions about them; and since I don't use it myself, > either, it doesn't seem like a good idea to do so. Thanks for the clarification. > > Nevertheless, it's clearly used by a number of people and third-party > packages that integrate with it, so take my opinion of it with a grain > of salt. If it seems useful to you, by all means, use it. > =2D-=20 Akib Azmain Turja, GPG key: 70018CE5819F17A3BBA666AFE74F0EFA922AE7F5 Fediverse: akib@hostux.social Codeberg: akib emailselfdefense.fsf.org | "Nothing can be secure without encryption." --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEyVTKmrtL6kNBe3FRVTX89U2IYWsFAmNt4vAACgkQVTX89U2I YWs4qxAAlSnw9Ael3XsV+Tqp2A0XEwNT93V+MQM8KZjbA33hpCz/CV0tiz8MiMHH EFZJORQoAGln1ckKXA7hpDLlAR61wuC5iMQMlO8WrhTd+MTDAsL9rjY2dT+HOXt5 NR7rxQWVELTgzo0ykcfp3hKuGt2nWsHTPmwa3oJzehIxZzAiP2Xm6e171BJ0IY2q D7CNQ3lDCzC84ZSyfNre0AF+j8p6Y31TCoGMyeGsw8oZaVlm9XLvqVa0c+WttGf4 PqKepPRzgm0NEDSbAtVPZ4TDk6Uam2wTa8g8wMYtV4DJKP79hDcMptLACDQ9mMJr 8XW17ItUbOeAk3yYKTYUVoU7Ncs6ZP5WSImisAVHQjB2pZkK5PqLvRTcuJG/HQw8 uweYOBKVuEz2Bcn51+b4KEiEr+ljPuUpGDvAdv9fWHjfFcTFOsc1GaSGj0OtfmXi 4gjua/sKwT+BUHqnAw5rQdAaKdiQgrXM8jSYWjsXq6rocJUWKOFqC25a9PdRjNEk zcnZQb2SwMPN1A3ph5qUPvnbP4s4e5+cWmeNcH5AjiiWkeO6i0iM5sdXPFlvTxoB coXxezIZChhobAabqVF9gbgGL5ZflTCvrLiJAwqRkZ9g9ctFbGdkZ1HgWRGvWRgA hHH18+6Jxa9eAmnceHiI4gIsnqkvtPzQt7kKSjTnKgd7A0BdxpY= =hEM6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--