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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305738 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: > My point is that I am guessing the average user you interact with is > either having issues or is actively interested in Eglot. I suspect (and > it is my experience) the average user, just like the average Emacs user, > does not really think about the specific version they are running. Yeah, who knows? And who knows if all the users we don't hear from are all three-headed fish from Neptune? Don't think that means I should ignore the users that face problems/want features and do make their voices heard. I do agree they don't think about versions, and even less what is :core or not. They probably just want things to work. >> PK> I have in my init.el is a lot: >> PK> eldoc-echo-area-use-multiline-p nil >> If you upgrade Eglot, you probably won't need this customization ;-) > How come, is this not related to eldoc? It is, but you included it in your Eglot section, did you not? And it was, for a long time, a way to avoid "echo area flooding" in Eglot. So I figured you'd be interested in knowning that that problem is largely fixed. > Broken? If that is the case, the issue should be addressed, but the > only issue I know of is that the package status is occasionally > incorrect, but that does not affect the packages itself. Robert Pluim reported some breakage. And it's suspiciously slow to start for me. > [eglot-update] should be deprecated though Noone disagrees with that. Will do once there is a better alternative, which there isn't atm.