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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e6b0820ef80b214b3966b75479a7ee44; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 13:23:02 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sat, 2 Sep 2023 12:14:01 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21763 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.189.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic314-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309888 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: >> Yes? Where else will any such proof come from? Perhaps it will be >> conjured out of thin air to suit the narrative of whoever wishes to >> launch into a lengthy, impassioned harangue over at this Speakers' >> Corner? > > This discussion appears to be heading into not nice exchanges. Could we > possibly please lower the temperature? > > Thanks! I apologize, should my reply have come off as hostile. The point I was attempting to articulate is that hesitation is not tantamount to refusal; if a bona fide large number of Emacs users are blighted by this problem, one of them should have steeled himself and reflected that fact to us by now.