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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	 Jens Schmidt <jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de>,
	 emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Keep network security info buffers after use
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 17:10:49 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87cyuz6tja.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wmt78kgn.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Thu, 21 Dec 2023 19:43:52 +0100")

On 21 Dec 2023, Andreas Schwab wrote:
> On Dez 21 2023, Karl Fogel wrote:
>
>> (The user already could do this by entering a recursive edit, 
>> but that way
>> is much less familiar to many users than `C-x o' is.)
>
> Moving out of a short-form r-m-c requires entering a recursive 
> edit,
> otherwise there would be nothing that executes the keys.

Could we please establish first what we *want* the user experience 
to be?

Obviously `read-multiple-choice' needs to keep the "read a key and 
respond instantly" behavior that it has right now (in the calling 
configuration used by `nsm-query-user', that is).  To change that 
UX would be a major regression, and I'm not proposing to change 
it.  I'm merely proposing that `C-x o' do what the user expects -- 
because that key sequence is the obvious gateway to accomplishing 
a thing the user sometimes wants to accomplish.

If it turns out that there's simply no way to implement this 
behavior, then so be it -- I'll discover that when I go to 
implement it.  But generally it's possible to get Emacs to do what 
we want.  The question here is just determining what we want.

Take it on faith, for now, that we could make this happen.  Let's 
just discuss whether we *want* it, assuming we can have it.  If we 
decide we want it, I'll try to implement it, and I'll ask for help 
if I don't see the way.  If in the end we can't do it, fine, then 
we would be in exactly the situation we're now anyway.

Best regards,
-Karl



  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-21 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-17 19:02 [PATCH] Keep network security info buffers after use Karl Fogel
2023-12-17 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 23:27   ` Karl Fogel
2023-12-18 17:36     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-19  0:00       ` Karl Fogel
2023-12-19  5:31         ` tomas
2023-12-19 12:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-19 12:50           ` tomas
2023-12-19 13:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-20 22:43           ` Andreas Schwab
2023-12-21  6:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-17 21:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-12-19  3:49 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-19  5:56   ` Karl Fogel
2023-12-19 12:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-19 13:10       ` tomas
2023-12-19 18:57       ` Karl Fogel
2023-12-19 19:08         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-19 20:18           ` Karl Fogel
2023-12-20 21:34             ` Jens Schmidt
2023-12-20 22:26               ` Andreas Schwab
2023-12-21  6:29               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-21 17:38                 ` Karl Fogel
2023-12-21 18:43                   ` Andreas Schwab
2023-12-21 23:10                     ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2023-12-22  7:29                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-22 10:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-22 11:51   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-22 21:58     ` Jens Schmidt
2023-12-22 22:10       ` Jens Schmidt
2023-12-23  7:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-23 10:46         ` Jens Schmidt
2023-12-23 22:57       ` Karl Fogel
2023-12-24  6:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 13:52     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-24 14:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 15:34         ` Karl Fogel
2023-12-24 16:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 17:35             ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2023-12-25 18:51               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 20:23                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-12-26 14:43                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2023-12-26 17:01                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-26 22:09                     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-27 12:54                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 20:18               ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-12-27 12:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-24 18:42       ` [External] : " Drew Adams

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