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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314602 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Thanks, but whether or not that revert was justified, please stop > reverting patches before people have time to react, or while discussions > are still ongoing. It is perceived as uncollaborative at best. When Mattias last proposed a policy of reverting changes which break the build at once, there were essentially no objections. I think we should definitely value a repository which builds over a repository that cannot, merely in the interests of appearing collaborative: after all it is possible to debate a change wherever it might be, in the repository or elsewhere. Thanks.