From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jeremy Bryant Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Ace-window in Emacs core for switching windows? Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2024 20:07:01 +0100 Message-ID: <87cynxc4oa.fsf@jeremybryant.net> References: <87y16s1z61.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <868qyq67hr.fsf@gnu.org> <87ikxrflie.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <864j9bhvng.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35780"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ohwoeowho@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 01 21:07:29 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sOMN6-00097Y-5r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 21:07:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOMMo-0007SF-4n; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 15:07:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOMMl-0007RX-AT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 15:07:07 -0400 Original-Received: from out-181.mta1.migadu.com ([95.215.58.181]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOMMj-0002gl-LC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Jul 2024 15:07:07 -0400 X-Envelope-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jeremybryant.net; s=key1; t=1719860823; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=pa+RK0/U+ILxC+zojoF+LKNFYCtY7POjn179YR9secQ=; b=S2nTByMB1nbh6Ozr87BcdlRgOy+IrH3tbQB0jDagQ2JELB4jzR2fHBgq3jrqf3jALaGpYH zvbJMJzdPfJuGk9h6iL6XOlmaID+IknYZh781ByNxmtWB845LXTNFjC3EHjbs94NwdBvx/ EnkEOcGR0M7cljJT/q8UqQS81Hkq504IqMuEWSJ4nkQUWHxKpWH1v21gXdpdTso/L85/AS EfDFAgCD8l6QShJ+8Y7/cUFxArhq+7h8aXmpKItJ7/xtylu2QLOzNKvcpZxiM+4pX5P9w0 Hom2zS3WO3pvRcvpT2CbDC3Yrjk7qMwQjHuC6Yl/FrcPtvD1gVKk4rTw3v18ig== X-Envelope-To: ohwoeowho@gmail.com X-Envelope-To: eliz@gnu.org X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. In-Reply-To: <864j9bhvng.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 30 Jun 2024 08:00:51 +0300") X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.215.58.181; envelope-from=jb@jeremybryant.net; helo=out-181.mta1.migadu.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321061 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > It could be, but why is it a problem to leave it on ELPA? >> >> There are deployment scenarios where users can only use the Emacs >> provided in the distro, with no internet access for policy or security reasons. >> In particular, that means only built-in packages, without access to the internet. >> >> As I personally use ace-window, I found it lacking in that scenario. > > That argument can be applied to any ELPA package, can't it? > > AFAIU, the lack of Internet access situation is no longer important > enough to warrant addition of packages to core. OK, I accept that > > (FTR, I need to work without Internet access quite a lot, so I'm > very much familiar with this situation and its problems.) Good to hear