From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 12:26:10 -0400 Message-ID: <87cynucuhp.fsf@dancol.org> References: <875xto7lbn.fsf@dancol.org> <86ed8ce2mh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <81b620d7-18a6-4c6e-8517-147a411ee882@gutov.dev> <67c493f5-8f12-416a-bf6f-0831ab0687a9@gutov.dev> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20472"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Monnier , Dmitry Gutov , Juri Linkov , Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 03 18:26:40 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sP2oY-00050A-ES for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 18:26:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sP2oN-0006BI-H2; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 12:26:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sP2oK-00066W-1R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 12:26:24 -0400 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01:e000:3d8::1]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sP2oI-0002Gx-4Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 12:26:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date: References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5hVPPACX+2CAc5uVh3kUtv95qYk97SwGrOsRvTVDk9k=; b=VvOiunbpFvYhG8zsuzZ1cmqh0O 7bC/uQWGDjv8gK/RQLGB5PiJBTOXG6gLid8XPd+MtY7AwbOqiBvqPDTCYTRqcrxflBr6Fy/x9Djz2 yWQwG2Ak/sngWPXttOQN86Er04QN0lO8BqO1nhv4U7GWm5ApmlprvN8rt0d7maZrpiJ6o5Jpie9eZ pV2JhzJglxtMthg0wQTD03uGfu8gFmu58Pvy6pijPSNhMLpaufHAJuM4mXZoO+zmvE5FJmgDEsvPV 4BxpKSnJVTnxvwfG56Mi91caWpoC7LWzZFlU50YpY5yBaK7PG0+fQDAPDwpJEfTbCJ3jx/jtbHAiL GyW7QILw==; Original-Received: from 2603-9001-4203-1ab2-fb43-0f72-8dfa-b7d8.inf6.spectrum.com ([2603:9001:4203:1ab2:fb43:f72:8dfa:b7d8]:44108 helo=localhost) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sP2o6-0000XZ-VU; Wed, 03 Jul 2024 12:26:12 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Yuri Khan's message of "Wed, 3 Jul 2024 23:15:07 +0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2600:3c01:e000:3d8::1; envelope-from=dancol@dancol.org; helo=dancol.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321268 Archived-At: Yuri Khan writes: > On Wed, 3 Jul 2024 at 20:53, Stefan Monnier wr= ote: >> >> > At that point, the and keys no longer >> > make sense, because, clearly, buffers are arranged in a vertical list >> > rather than a horizontal strip. >> >> AFAIK these commands cycle through the list of buffers, so I think of it >> as a circle, and I'd rather use keys like and >> . > > You probably said that in jest, but there are in fact many keyboards > that feature rotary encoders that can emit key or mouse events when > turned, and people do configure those to switch tabs in browsers, > among other uses. (On the wire, it still looks like Ctrl+PgUp and > Ctrl+PgDn, because that=E2=80=99s what browsers and editors expect.) Yeah. I've been meaning to hook up a https://monogramcc.com/ to Emacs for a while now. There'd be something viscerally satisfying about going back and forth in undo history using that large rotary dial. Sadly, no Linux drivers yet. :-(