From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding a generic mathematical library Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 21:28:23 +0200 Message-ID: <87cyn6tui0.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <878qy1at52.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87ikwz5nll.fsf@dataswamp.org> <875xsz5g07.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87v80z3wkq.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87ed7n3sav.fsf@dataswamp.org> <878qxv3pz4.fsf@dataswamp.org> <871q3n3p75.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87msma3mgo.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19007"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:8PzTgMlEucxEgMaZIUH0Ill+0DU= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 22 04:23:24 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sVihw-0004mx-2O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Jul 2024 04:23:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVihd-0006G1-9Q; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 22:23:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVcEW-0002lp-UW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 15:28:36 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sVcEV-00037z-3d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 15:28:36 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sVcER-0009aX-3M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jul 2024 21:28:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 22:23:03 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321918 Archived-At: Christopher Dimech wrote: > To get what you want, you have to agree with something. > Otherwise you get the resistance you have witnessed. I am in > agreement with Eli on this thing. We should first discuss > its scope and design. Maybe there is some field of math that isn't taken by all mighty Calc already? That can happen. Scope would then be that. Design would be to program a bunch of functions, operators, constants, combine into popular formulas and so on. I think the names are the only thing one has to agree on, what to call everything. Is there and ISO document to tell you? If not, one could agree to use some hefty Anglo-American textbook with a good reputation and a modern edition and then just consistently do whatever they do. Most important thing is to have a plan, a good plan, and then stick to it. In general quite clearly: "Straight math" (Linear Algebra) is easier to program than the derivative, limes functions, probability distributions, and such stuff - also integers, as in Discrete Math, are easier than floats (Analysis). -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal